I'll wait and see more, but initially, I'm going against the grain on this one. This was a major ICE fuckup. Even if the guy drew a gun, it should not have gotten to that point. Yeah, he shouldn't resist or provoke (if he did the latter.) He certainly shouldn't draw a gun, if he did.
But ICE should be trained enough where six guys can detain one dumbass who's already on the ground, without using lethal force. Grab his fucking arms. This was incompetent nonsense, and resulted in the death of (I think) an American citizen.
If you have to use lethal force on a guy who's on the ground and surrounded by you and your buddies, you've messed up. ONE trained guy should be able to take down a guy on the ground. Two certainly should. Six ABSOLUTELY should.
Again, I'll wait for more information, but I doubt I'll be defending this shoot. Looks bad.
If the argument is fighting demons, I want my demon fighters competent and ready. Not a bunch of thugs who could kill anyone. And they seem to be going down the latter road, at least some of them.
I'll wait and see more, but initially, I'm going against the grain on this one. This was a major ICE fuckup. Even if the guy drew a gun, it should not have gotten to that point. Yeah, he shouldn't resist or provoke (if he did the latter.) He certainly shouldn't draw a gun, if he did.
But ICE should be trained enough where six guys can detain one dumbass who's already on the ground, without using lethal force. Grab his fucking arms. This was incompetent nonsense, and resulted in the death of (I think) an American citizen.
If you have to use lethal force on a guy who's on the ground and surrounded by you and your buddies, you've messed up. ONE trained guy should be able to take down a guy on the ground. Two certainly should. Six ABSOLUTELY should.
Again, I'll wait for more information, but I doubt I'll be defending this shoot. Looks bad.
Bro applying morals while we're fighting demons
As I keep saying, my issue is the incompetence.
If the argument is fighting demons, I want my demon fighters competent and ready. Not a bunch of thugs who could kill anyone. And they seem to be going down the latter road, at least some of them.