Comment pins are broken, so I'm reposting this as its own thread. Everyone made thoughtful contributions - thank you.
edit: I will be updating the rules tomorrow
edit: I hear everyone with concerns over archiving and other norms, but I think it's better for the community to enforce that kind of stuff for now. We'll see how it goes - nothing will be set in stone.
This draft is a living document, unlike the US Constitution
- Do not advocate for illegal violence or post other illegal activity. (Be aware of your local laws.)
- Don't threaten, harass, or impersonate users. Also: don't be a psycho. New users will be held to a higher standard.
- Do not post porn.
- NSFW/NSFL content must be flaired NSFW.
- No vote manipulation. Do not break communities.win's features.
- No spam or reposts. Do not make more than 5 threads a day.
- Do not post falsehoods and hoaxes that are obvious to an uncontroversial degree.
Notes:
- R16 has to go. That much is obvious. Anyway, the mod team is already diverse by 4chan's standard, not reddit's.
- "illegal violence" might seem redundant, but there are a million cases of civil/legal advocacy of violence, such as supporting the invasion of Venezuela. On the other hand, advocating for assassination can understandably earn you a visit from the Secret Service.
- R2 has replaced the original R3 and is
specifically tied to the "community standard" as a minor safeguard against mod abusenow tied to the "psycho" standard. As many have noted here, we need a general purpose "don't be a fag" rule. - The spam rule has been expanded.
- R7 is to prevent low IQ posting. It has been slightly retooled to, again, add a minor safeguard against mods banning posts due to differences of political opinion.
- The original R7, the brigading rule, has been deleted. This community is too small to brigade even random Twitter posts, and if we get raided then the new R2 will cover it.
For anyone confused about the "fag" and "psycho" discussion, these are previous drafts of R2:
- Don't be a fag, a psycho, or anything else that breaches the community's standard of conversation. New users will be held to a higher standard.
- Don't threaten, harass, or impersonate users, or anything else that breaches the community's standard of conversation. New users will be held to a higher standard.
As long as the spirt of the rule lives on I'm good with it. I just don't want to see outsiders like Bluestorm shitting up the board for months on end again.
Which is a defensible approach. Less permissible than what I would want but I know I'm an outlier on the topic. It does a seem a little contradictory with BandageBandolier's approach which is why I'm bringing it up. It's probably a hard cases make bad law situation especially since he advocated for gay rape of all things.
As long as I live and breath, you won't see that repeat.
As I've said, shit like that (Bluestorm, Imp alts, pedo jeet, gore jeet, porn jeet, incel jeet, etc.), is the main reason I was interested in mod status at all.
I'd rather fucking not bother. But I like the community, and want to protect it. That's it.
Yup. Thankfully, I think we're all pretty restrained, but it certainly is interesting adding six new mods at the same time, who have no connection with each other outside of all being members here. I don't foresee any clashes of personality, but we will have to all decide how we want to handle these things.
I think Ableist's thread was clearly violative, so I see no problem removing similar ones in the future, but I hope it doesn't come to that. Thus, the warning. If he (or others, not trying to single him out) can't moderate their approach, that's on them.
I'm not after anyone and, just to be clear, even if it did happen again, I'm not even timing him out. Just removing the thread, and giving another warning. He'd be immediately welcome to repost with a nonviolent title. I'm not looking to declare war on anyone here, and want to be as hands off as possible.
"pedo jeet, gore jeet, porn jeet, incel jeet, etc"
Just put "No Jeet behavior"
This kind of insanity normally disqualifies someone from being a moderator.
I'll be honest, had I seen Kienan's sticky comment lower down the thread I probably wouldn't have offered another opinion. Not trying to give contradictory info, we've just been focused on figuring out the general rules to abide by and otherwise working autonomously on our own understandings of expectations without stepping on each other's toes until something gets formalized. It's part of why I've been very sparse with the mod marked comments so far, until the new rules are formalized I can't really say I speak for the moderation team as a whole.
I've already had the pleasure of banning the latest iteration of pedo-jeet, my bloodlust is sated now and I my primary interests are making sure no normal users are getting auto-filtered anymore and not doing anything irreversible until things are settled and agreed upon.