Comment pins are broken, so I'm reposting this as its own thread. Everyone made thoughtful contributions - thank you.
edit: I will be updating the rules tomorrow
edit: I hear everyone with concerns over archiving and other norms, but I think it's better for the community to enforce that kind of stuff for now. We'll see how it goes - nothing will be set in stone.
This draft is a living document, unlike the US Constitution
- Do not advocate for illegal violence or post other illegal activity. (Be aware of your local laws.)
- Don't threaten, harass, or impersonate users. Also: don't be a psycho. New users will be held to a higher standard.
- Do not post porn.
- NSFW/NSFL content must be flaired NSFW.
- No vote manipulation. Do not break communities.win's features.
- No spam or reposts. Do not make more than 5 threads a day.
- Do not post falsehoods and hoaxes that are obvious to an uncontroversial degree.
Notes:
- R16 has to go. That much is obvious. Anyway, the mod team is already diverse by 4chan's standard, not reddit's.
- "illegal violence" might seem redundant, but there are a million cases of civil/legal advocacy of violence, such as supporting the invasion of Venezuela. On the other hand, advocating for assassination can understandably earn you a visit from the Secret Service.
- R2 has replaced the original R3 and is
specifically tied to the "community standard" as a minor safeguard against mod abusenow tied to the "psycho" standard. As many have noted here, we need a general purpose "don't be a fag" rule. - The spam rule has been expanded.
- R7 is to prevent low IQ posting. It has been slightly retooled to, again, add a minor safeguard against mods banning posts due to differences of political opinion.
- The original R7, the brigading rule, has been deleted. This community is too small to brigade even random Twitter posts, and if we get raided then the new R2 will cover it.
For anyone confused about the "fag" and "psycho" discussion, these are previous drafts of R2:
- Don't be a fag, a psycho, or anything else that breaches the community's standard of conversation. New users will be held to a higher standard.
- Don't threaten, harass, or impersonate users, or anything else that breaches the community's standard of conversation. New users will be held to a higher standard.
As I said in the other thread, before I saw you created a new one:
Sorry to nitpick, but new R2 is both too vague and too vulgar. As funny as "don't be a fag" is, it's not really the tone I personally would like to go for.
Other than that, it's looking good. We trimmed a lot of the fat, while still keeping the necessary stuff.
"Don't be fag" leaves some doors open that I'm hesitant about but with the current team and the experience of the last several years I think it's an acceptable risk. That's not to say I'm against trying to refine it further.
Bit of crudeness could be good for gatekeeping, though.
What constitutes being a fag, though?
Are we applying 90s faggotry standards, which is some middle stage between being an asshole and being a fucking asshole? Or do we lean in literally, and say "no gay stuff"? Or some other vague standard?
I ask because, for example, I routinely get called a fag by randoms whenever someone wants to religionpost, and I reply some variant of "keep your god in your pants, thanks". Does that fall afoul of “don't be a fag"?
As much as using this as a variant on the nigger license to keep the flies off sounds funny, I don't know if it's the best practice.
What a fag thing to say
Well, I am a mod now so...
I'm so sorry about your loss.
(Nice to see a new mod that can take jabs in stride and isn't too prideful for some self-deprecating humor.)
If mods can't take the 'mods are fags' joke, they've got no business being a mod.
How is "don't be a fag" less vague?
Hell, I don't even know if being a Power Bottom violates rule 2 by that logic.