Now conservatives aren't leftists, because leftism and liberalsim are not the same thing.
But leftism is the icing that everyone sees on a cake, whereas liberalism is all the batter that makes up the cake. Most conservatives unknowingly accept the bread part of the cake without realizing it, but reject wokeism, not realizing they are natural extensions of each other.
To define what you must believe to not be a liberal
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Women getting the right to vote was incredibly foolish, one of the most foolish things any society has ever done...the two sexes are very diffferent, they have different roles. Determining the fate of a nation is not one of them
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The civil rights act of 1965 was a horrible thing
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Thinking that white society as it behaves is better than black society as a general as they behave is not a racist thing, it's just a neutral observation
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More things that I can't think of right now, but those are the majors.
I would say most conservatives would sort of get nervous and go "well I wouldn't go that far" or "I think women should be allowed to vote" or any number of things on those main issues.
I'd say 99% of Americans and Westerners in general are liberal.
You don't have to be a neo nazi or white nationalist to be not a liberal, but you have to at least reject white guilt completely.
I understand your point on racial views and I definitely see all that is going on but I would still say I’m for voluntary associations. And that’s usually fine unless white people practice it which is wrong. Gotta be across the board. Although with my rose colored glasses I’d still ideally love to see everyone link arms and sing about peace and brotherhood. I suppose heaven would be like that.
Yeah, in heaven everyone will come from all nations, and it says we will all be one.
We will all be in unity, in Christ. I'm not sure there will even be race as we know it. When Paul talks about what we'll be like, he says to paraphrase, that what we'll be in this new state, he can't exactly say, but to think of it like a seed, where the tree is way more magnificent and different than the seed it came from.
We could all be golden in our bodies, or pure light, the glorified bodies. It might not even be "skin" as we know it, but could be like some sort of mixture of jewels composing a body.
No one knows, but the point is we know our eternal glorified body won't be like our eartlhy bodies. They'll be these perfect things that never age, have no flaws, etc.
Amen to that. I’ll be honest, I know there is more to someone than their skin color and I would still say that I’m colorblind in that sense but I’ve seen why people “notice patterns” and “see color”. I am guilty of wearing rose colored glasses.
As for the nature of our heavenly bodies we could speculate on that forever. Going to definitely expand our minds in infinite directions after having lived in a 3d world
Oh yeah, no, I'm race conscious, and I think there are biological aspects to race, including intelligence.
But I also know all people come from Noah and his 3 sons, so I reject any evolutionary bullcrap.
But it's undeniable that race plays a role in this world.
The thing I've argued is with the church being so race obsessed and not wanting to be seen as racist, is it's a stupid pursuit...we can't even figure race out....so just stop caring about it.
I give an example. If the Ninevites who were seriously jacked up....if they were more biologically disposed to being as jacked up as they were, or if it was purely "environmental factors", would it change the book of Jonah even 1%? No.
No biology precludes a people from repenting.
If the Ninevites were particularly messed up more than others partially because of biology, that doesn't change 1 single thing. They were formally one way, and then they repented.
So why doesn't the church stop pretending there is zero chance of biological factors and just say "let's preach to the black community the same message that Jonah preached, the message of repentance because the result of repentance is what we care about, not optics".
If black people have some biological reason for behaving so poorly, or if it's 100% environmental, neither case matters. The actions and attitude are sending them to hell either way, and repentance would transfer them to the kingdom of light.
The church wants to prove so hard they're not racist, that they're leaving segments of this country still in wrath because saying that behavior is bad would "be a bad look".
If biology impacted if someone could accept the gospel and repent, I could see why the church would be scared of the topic.
But one thing we know is that the gospel can be accepted by someone as simple as a child, or as brilliant as Einstein, that all people groups have among them believers of Jesus.
So why do they care if race has some stuff to do with biology? In heaven it won't matter, so likewise it doesn't matter to me, except for the fact that I'm not going to put myself or my nation in danger in order to not appear racist, because they think "not appearing racist" is synonymous with Christianity.
What makes someone superior and inferior is joy, peace, patience, gentleness, self control, love, vs the fruit of the flesh, so I have no pavlovian response to the idea that some races have higher IQ.
In a way, with the church being so obsessed to believe that race has no biological ties to IQ, sort of betrays them that they believe intelligence makes someone superior, which is an ungodly belief.
I'd rather take 1 million meek, loving, humble, but lower IQ people over any Eistein level genius full of malice and hatred any day of the week.
It seems odd that the church is so nervous about any implications about IQ or other behaviors regarding race, because when I read the Bible, the Bible is utterly unconcerned with someone's IQ, but whether they accept God's word or not, which every race and people can do.
I want to say to the church....you want a kumbaya race utopia....just wait, heaven will be exactly that...you don't need to screw up America to try and achieve it here. And even now at this moment when seperated, all Christians are united as the Capital C "Church".
I'm more united by the Holy Spirit with a man I've never met in Kenya who is indweldt with the holy spirit than a white next door neighbor who does not possess the Holy Spirit.
So churches need to not be so worried about what the skin color demographic make up of their individual church looks like.
There's one big church, and it's very muti-cultural and multi-racial.
Very interesting way of putting it. I like that. I do think voluntary association is a good thing. Don’t force people together who don’t want to be together and vice versa