TL;DR after years of groypers celebrating pedophilia, Nick Fuentes suddenly decided he needed optics, so it is now the Night of the Long Knives for groypers who "joke" about little girls.
The post that launched a thousand comments, with commentary by HowlingMutant.
This is Piers Morgan's daughter, Elise Morgan. @piersmorgan can I get her number? [emojis]
She only has a few good years left before shes expired, better be quick! @piersmorgan
As with all groyper/Fuentes stories, this gets complex. The opening shot was of course the Piers Morgan interview, in which Piers named Nick's dad (Bill Fuentes) and asked him to explain an anecdote about his dad calling Red Lobster a black restaurant. Nick took extreme offense to Piers bringing up his dad, then said on his show that Piers' family was "fair game" and "greenlit," adding "fuck you and fuck your kids."
On the internet, "greenlit" basically means "go after these people, it's open season." It comes from black gangbanger slang for getting "greenlit" to kill someone.
In the wake of Nick's pronouncement, people dug up mountains of hilarious evidence that Piers is a cuck (already posted here), but the whole family was declared greenlit, so naturally a groyper account named "Voluntary Conscription Groyper" @fuentesclips went after Piers' daughter, resulting in the above post. (Elise Morgan was born in 2010 so she's about 15 now, but obviously she's much younger in that photo, probably around 8-11.)
The post was immediately seized on by the likes of James Lindsay and other faggot libs, and Nick, although making no public comment, may have put out the word to disavow. Subsequently, large groyper booster accounts like Gentile News Network did indeed disavow. Several times. Then the OP was suspended by X.
The funniest thing about this is that before yesterday, this was standard, even celebrated, groyper behavior. For example:
- OP was a large groyper account followed by Nick Fuentes and regularly posted things like a picture of infamous teenage rape and murder victim Junko Furata with the caption "14 year olds are hotter" with almost 300 likes
- Complained "haven't raped in a while" (see above)
- Groyper defending the above posts by stating "Catholic Church age of marriage is 14 retard"
- "Ok but why does loli Candace look kind of cute tho"
- "Haha isn't it funny if you burn a mom alive and kidnap her daughter"
- Groyper tributes to the suspended account with 160 likes and 54 likes
- Another example of groypers making rape porn out of the wifejak meme. There are many of these
- To sum it up, groypers with snowflake emojis are part of a pedophile gang that popularized the term "cunny" to refer to, well... the physiology of an underage girl
- Long thread about how Nick covered for a Indian/Pakistani/something pedophile named Ali Alexander. This could be a post in itself. Background on Ali.
So, if you didn't know yet, Nick fostered a teeming community of pedophiles in addition to everything else he's done, making him the weirdest fed asset of all history. But now it's time for him to enter the mainstream, so the long knives are out.
As far as getting offended at his dad being named by Piers: I don't get it. One, it's an anecdote he told on his show, so it's public knowledge. Two, putting out his dad's name isn't really doxing him. Three, he claims his parents are working themselves to the bone to pay for terminal cancer treatments, but Nick is a millionaire at this point. He can't help his parents out?
You'll have to decide if child rape jokes are OK with you or not.
I thought we were gamers
They aren't. Good think it isn't Nick saying them, huh? The biggest mark against Nick is the Ali Alexander stuff anyway, but you chose to instead focus on random anons who are tangentially related, which is what faggot leftists do. If this thread was an Ali Alexander/Nick Knew thread, that would be completely different, but it is in fact a kvetching shareblue fanfic.
Everyone knows Nick attracts unhinged (literal) faggots. I personally don't give a shit for the same reason I don't give a shit about Andrew Tate "radicalizing young boys!!!" There's so much you can actually pin Nick on that people rarely do, and you glossed over the biggest AF scandal in favor of schoolmarming.
I think the gap between us is the experience with the RW twitter sphere. First of all, RW twitter is where all serious political business goes down up to the level of the president and vice president. This has been proven countless times over the last few years. It's also influential on everyone in the RW, including thinkers, artists, influencers, etc.
Everyone on the internet gets influenced by Twitter, and Nick constantly leverages his popularity.
Having established that, groypers are one of the most powerful forces in the RW. They aren't self-organizing. They function as a cohesive unit taking orders from Nick and his lieutenants, they don't think for themselves, and they back each other up no matter what. They don't discuss or reason anything. The only thing that matters is "does Nick agree with this" and everyone else gets ratioed. This is extremely irritating.
Now imagine a significant part of this mob is into pedophilia and constantly shoves that in your face. It's as if 50 posters here were clones of AbleistSL and constantly talk about raping lolicons while everyone who disagrees gets downvoted. And this took over several threads daily. And this forum was somehow politically influential.
Nick takes the blame for this and it speaks to the character of his "movement." The Ali stuff is a lot more important in the grand scheme of things, but this is the part that's shoved in my face every day, and I'm sick of it.
I don't have twitter at all, so your take on what happens there I'll largely just grant. Like Cato, I'm more of the opinion that what happens on twitter largely doesn't matter. It is undeniable that Nick is getting popular in the grander view of public discourse, and this is really all I focus on. This is also where I stop caring about the groyper army, because at the end of the day, it's Nick himself going on Piers and Tucker. I don't give a shit about groyper faggotry because from my perspective, dissident right politics is wagging its fat dick in the face of the establishment to a degree that's utterly undeniable, and "our side" is making great strides towards shifting the culture and establishing the support necessary to actually foster real change. Some degenerate fucks on Twitter doesn't make me lose sight of that goal. Once we deal with the commies, most of them will largely settle down and stop being spicyboys. If they don't, they'll get the rope too.
Nick is probably a total fucking asshole and Machiavellian dipshit in real life and likely has zero actual empathy for his groypers who he will most certainly betray if it gives him more power to do so. It's basically why he teamed up with Ali in the first place. In spite of this, I do not care, because the more zoomers look at Nick and smile, the more zoomers will find people like Thomas Sewell and start working towards real change.
Whether we like it or not, Nick is really the only truly successful dissident voice with anything close to mass appeal. I'll take him as the tip of the spear. For now.
I suppose this could be the case. I've argued something similar about alt-lite voices like Tim Pool or something. In this view, the more Nick is popularized, the more white racial consciousness will rise, regardless of what his handlers are trying to do.
On the other hand, my point is that whatever you want to call his movement, it's a burgeoning cult of personality that is corrosive to basic pursuit of the truth, and that's potentially very destructive.
I don't seem to see the same velocity of the dissident right, but maybe that's just my perspective.
Said tip of the spear is spending most of his energies trying to stop people from tying the murder of Charlie Kirk to Israel, so this should be a good test as to what effects his influence will have.
You are the literal definition of "terminally online". Nothing real ever happens on Twitter. It is always completely fake and gay.
The Haitian dogs+cats trend that became Trump's biggest debate line got started on Twitter. Trump has repeatedly reversed policy because of Twitter. Vivek got fired from DOGE because of Twitter. Vivek's campaign, in fact, is now tanking in an R+8 state because of things he said on Twitter. That's just off the top of my head.
Typical hallmark of the boomer, you refuse to open your eyes and see how the world has changed. Every single politically influential person on the RW is on that website.
Actually now that I think of it, you might as well have said that Gamergate doesn't matter because it was all on the internet. Truly a ridiculous position.
You mean literally what happens here with Nazis?