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Scientists are using AI to develop new materials: “AI can now learn the laws of physics and chemistry on its own, enabling it to imagine and predict new materials.” (scored.co)
posted 220 days ago by Zyxl 220 days ago by Zyxl +49 / -0
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– Vicious_snek6 2 points 220 days ago +2 / -0

We can tell it understands the above question because it gives you a number in dollars rather than a day of the week or a salad recipe

No. That still doesn't show understanding. All it 'understands' is probabilities of words being associated. In the millions of questions it was fed, 'what is'+'house'+'price' is then often followed by sentences with dollar amounts in 6 figures. So that is what it spits out. Not because it understood your question, but because your question contained certain key elements, key tokens, that are then, in most cases in other text, followed by other ones. That's not understanding.

It's a trick. It's a fancier version of the word prediction and spellcheck that clippy has been able to do for 30 years, taken up a notch into sentences and paragraphs

Don't fall for their marketing, don't fall for their cult. I'm not saying that it's answers aren't functionally as good as what a 90iq or even a midwitt might answer, but it's now apparent that that is possible even without 'understanding'. Regurgitating an amalgamated reddit response based on probabilities is not understanding.

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– Zyxl [S] 1 point 220 days ago +1 / -0

As I was saying, the process it uses really makes no difference if the output is intelligent. I don't care if it's doing astrology or generating random numbers, the fact of the matter is it produces intelligible output. You can probe it on something made up which it hasn't been trained on and you'll still get a half decent answer. Whether or not you want to call that "understanding" doesn't matter. The point is it's got a lot better at making intelligent output. We've already crossed the line that many people thought would be impossible and even published scientific papers claiming to show it was impossible.

It starts with coherent sentences and images, then progresses to coherent science experiments and nuclear blueprints, and then we all die. Unless we collectively decide to stop it before then.

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– Vicious_snek6 1 point 220 days ago +1 / -0

As I was saying, the process it uses really makes no difference if the output is intelligent.

No, it's not as you were saying. You assumed a process of learning or understanding, and said it made no difference if it's the same as a human's or not, and then wrote paragraphs on how smart it is and how much it understands, and in fact used how much it understands to underpin an argument about how intelligent it is.

The fact a machine can tell what you're asking for just about any question in the English language (most of which have never been asked before) is a huge amount of progress. We can tell it understands the above question because it gives you a number in dollars rather than a day of the week or a salad recipe. This kind of understanding and adaptability to any kind of question is the cornerstone of intelligence. So it's a very big deal that it can do that. It may have issues with logical reasoning and math, but those are things computers were always pretty good at, so it shouldn't be too long before those capabilities can be added in.

If you're comparing AI to women and midwits that suggests it already has a level of understanding close to that of a human. We'd be foolish to think AI is not going to get significantly better just as all technology does when there is financial incentive and ways to measure its success.

All of this, is you saying it understands.

Only once challenged on it, did you retreat to it not mattering if it even understood or not, because the output is intelligible.

It's like talking to an ai.

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– Zyxl [S] 1 point 219 days ago +1 / -0

We just have a different definition of understanding. I say something has understanding if it exhibits behavior we typically associate with understanding. If you don't like that definition that's fine, but it doesn't disprove the fact that today's AIs can exhibit behavior which we would associate with understanding if exhibited by a human or animal. And that's a marked improvement on AIs from a decade ago. So if AIs continue to progress they will be able to conduct scientific experiments and eventually be able to wipe out humanity.

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