This always weirds me out, and not just in relation to Nick Fuentes, but it's especially weird seeing it on this issue, because it's either people instinctively mirroring each other, or it's a psyop.
I've never seen Nick Fuentes described as specifically "absurdly talented" until recently, when Tucker praised him while calling him a gay basement dweller.
Honestly, the more people I see call Nick Fuentes "very talented, no matter what you think of him," the more my suspicion grows.
Is he? Maybe, I honestly don't watch him, so I wouldn't know. But what I have seem of him, he comes across as smarmy and unlikable. I could be missing some nuance, but you'd think if he was actually amazingly talented, he wouldn't have the 'gay femboy' reputation. Me? If I was insanely talented, and wanted to push my opinions on others, I'd be a strongman, I'd be a masculine leader, I'd be magnetic. Not a smug and obnoxious dude of indeterminate sexuality. Although, sure, maybe I'm missing something, and he's outplaying me. Honestly, there's a lot of men struggling out there, so maybe his whole "I'm a based chad, but also sort of a virgin loser" vibe plays well. I don't hate Fuentes, and I admit to not understanding him. But, I don't know, this whole "incredibly talented" thing strikes me as artificial.
It's like when I hear people tell me Obama, or Hitler, was charismatic. I don't speak German, so I can't comment on Hitler, but Obama was merely above average. He wasn't a genius. Fuentes also doesn't come across as a genius. Again, could be misreading things, and I'll allow he's above average, and is very competent in selling his brand, but this new thing of praising him for being generationally talented is a bit weird, if you ask me.
Nick Fuentes is as talented as Hasan Piker when it comes to Live Streams. This has managed to impress Gen X'ers who can't imagine interacting with an active chat for 4 hours, let alone double that. Truth is, that's not all that impressive of a skill set if you have a minimum level of social intractability, and have a dozen points to focus on.
he comes across as smarmy and unlikable.
He's way worse than smarmy. He's rabidly narcissistic. Beyond having a mantra where his watchers pledge to rape and murder for him, and publicly condemning someone on stream and banning them because the customer's shipment had been delayed, I will remind you that his "incredible" response to Tucker involved him claiming himself as the sole avatar of the white working class, and claiming Tucker was faking being working class (despite Tucker having explicitly stated he was effectively born into an American Aristocracy). So there's levels to his self-aggrandizement, and it's backed up with dishonesty and shaming.
Hitler's charisma actually comes mostly for how he structured his speeches. We see him mostly yelling, but that comes after a half hour or more of build up. He was very good at managing tone and pacing. He also used a neat trick that was a feature of the German language. He would construct his sentences in such a way where, IIRC, the object/subject of the sentence was at the end, so that it would be hard to understand him until he finished a sentence. This meant that his points would reliably come across as 'eureka' moments to an audience (since they had to wait through the whole sentence), and he would be talking so quickly that he'd be moving into the next sentence before they had finished processing the last one, causing German listeners to literally be kept in a kind of trance, because they never really had time to think through his statements.
To a large portion of Germans, this was grating and annoying because he wasn't getting to his point in a normal pace; but to others it was captivating because it forced them to listen... but then not have any time to think through what he said. This doesn't translate well into English, and it's why Mien Kampf makes Hitler come off like a completely raving lunatic. It's not an eloquent book by any means, and Hitler's speeches can't keep tone and pacing in the written word, and certainly don't work in non-German. It would be like me writing:
Coming down, I did from the bedroom, with pancakes for breakfast, I ate!
This always weirds me out, and not just in relation to Nick Fuentes, but it's especially weird seeing it on this issue, because it's either people instinctively mirroring each other, or it's a psyop.
I've never seen Nick Fuentes described as specifically "absurdly talented" until recently, when Tucker praised him while calling him a gay basement dweller.
Honestly, the more people I see call Nick Fuentes "very talented, no matter what you think of him," the more my suspicion grows.
Is he? Maybe, I honestly don't watch him, so I wouldn't know. But what I have seem of him, he comes across as smarmy and unlikable. I could be missing some nuance, but you'd think if he was actually amazingly talented, he wouldn't have the 'gay femboy' reputation. Me? If I was insanely talented, and wanted to push my opinions on others, I'd be a strongman, I'd be a masculine leader, I'd be magnetic. Not a smug and obnoxious dude of indeterminate sexuality. Although, sure, maybe I'm missing something, and he's outplaying me. Honestly, there's a lot of men struggling out there, so maybe his whole "I'm a based chad, but also sort of a virgin loser" vibe plays well. I don't hate Fuentes, and I admit to not understanding him. But, I don't know, this whole "incredibly talented" thing strikes me as artificial.
It's like when I hear people tell me Obama, or Hitler, was charismatic. I don't speak German, so I can't comment on Hitler, but Obama was merely above average. He wasn't a genius. Fuentes also doesn't come across as a genius. Again, could be misreading things, and I'll allow he's above average, and is very competent in selling his brand, but this new thing of praising him for being generationally talented is a bit weird, if you ask me.
Nick Fuentes is as talented as Hasan Piker when it comes to Live Streams. This has managed to impress Gen X'ers who can't imagine interacting with an active chat for 4 hours, let alone double that. Truth is, that's not all that impressive of a skill set if you have a minimum level of social intractability, and have a dozen points to focus on.
He's way worse than smarmy. He's rabidly narcissistic. Beyond having a mantra where his watchers pledge to rape and murder for him, and publicly condemning someone on stream and banning them because the customer's shipment had been delayed, I will remind you that his "incredible" response to Tucker involved him claiming himself as the sole avatar of the white working class, and claiming Tucker was faking being working class (despite Tucker having explicitly stated he was effectively born into an American Aristocracy). So there's levels to his self-aggrandizement, and it's backed up with dishonesty and shaming.
Hitler's charisma actually comes mostly for how he structured his speeches. We see him mostly yelling, but that comes after a half hour or more of build up. He was very good at managing tone and pacing. He also used a neat trick that was a feature of the German language. He would construct his sentences in such a way where, IIRC, the object/subject of the sentence was at the end, so that it would be hard to understand him until he finished a sentence. This meant that his points would reliably come across as 'eureka' moments to an audience (since they had to wait through the whole sentence), and he would be talking so quickly that he'd be moving into the next sentence before they had finished processing the last one, causing German listeners to literally be kept in a kind of trance, because they never really had time to think through his statements.
To a large portion of Germans, this was grating and annoying because he wasn't getting to his point in a normal pace; but to others it was captivating because it forced them to listen... but then not have any time to think through what he said. This doesn't translate well into English, and it's why Mien Kampf makes Hitler come off like a completely raving lunatic. It's not an eloquent book by any means, and Hitler's speeches can't keep tone and pacing in the written word, and certainly don't work in non-German. It would be like me writing:
Instead of:
just like large parts of the internet.
In a literal 1:1 fashion if we are talking about Hitler's translated speeches.