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Mustang Mach-E commits suicide after realizing it will never be a Mustang (twitter.com)
posted 295 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent 295 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent +74 / -0
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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 2 points 295 days ago +2 / -0

It looks like you're right that this is a bigger problem on post-2020 vehicles where software updates started getting normalized.

However, it is also true that an electric system is much more incrementally controllable than an ICE system. Granular levels of control are being pushed much farther on EVs for that reason.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 2 points 295 days ago +2 / -0

Not really, everything on a modern car is already fly by wire so the level of control is already there, give me a specific example of an inherent difference.

E-brake is a mechanical connection on a lot of cars. Brakes are mechanical. Gear selector on manuals is mechanical, pretty sure that's the case for modern autos as well. Doors and locks are mechanical.

Re: the drivetrain, with EV cars you can dial acceleration up or down as much as you want without hurting anything since you're just asking the motors to run at different rates. With ICE, running at suboptimal RPMs and fueling will damage your motor so there's less opportunity to push that level of control.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 1 point 294 days ago +1 / -0

can just as easily be for EVs

But because of the design philosophy, it's often not, so people are getting locked out of their Rivians.

electronic gear selector is the standard now days and has been for a while.

OK you're right about that now, excluding manuals.

okay and why does it matter that things can carelessly be changed like that? The manufacturer would know what they're doing and be able to make patches that don't kill the engine.

The reason it matters is because EVs can be tuned and detuned essentially on a whim by the manufacturer with almost no mechanical complications, opening the door to dystopian levels of subscription control or even climate lockdown 10-minute city regulations that would apply uniformly to every vehicle owner in a given area.

and while knocking can be a problem with running too lean on a spark plug engine fuel flow is the core method of control for many compression engines.

Gas and spark plugs is by far the dominant sector

the only "suboptimal RPMs" would either be so low the car can't even run properly, or pointlessly high. and while knocking can be a problem with running too lean on a spark plug engine fuel flow is the core method of control for many compression engines.

You still never specified what level of control, there you were basically just talking about power limiting and even I as someone with little knowledge of car tuning can easily see a number of features that can be pieced out to sell as a subscription on an ICE vehicle. For example you could impose a limit on how far the throttle will open or change the shifting logic,

Setting limits on max throttle will create engine lugging problems due to the gearing (wrong RPMs), would make the turbo in a turbocharged car unresponsive or useless, and might wear on the transmission due to optimal shift points being missed.

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