Not really, everything on a modern car is already fly by wire so the level of control is already there, give me a specific example of an inherent difference.
E-brake is a mechanical connection on a lot of cars. Brakes are mechanical. Gear selector on manuals is mechanical, pretty sure that's the case for modern autos as well. Doors and locks are mechanical.
Re: the drivetrain, with EV cars you can dial acceleration up or down as much as you want without hurting anything since you're just asking the motors to run at different rates. With ICE, running at suboptimal RPMs and fueling will damage your motor so there's less opportunity to push that level of control.
But because of the design philosophy, it's often not, so people are getting locked out of their Rivians.
electronic gear selector is the standard now days and has been for a while.
OK you're right about that now, excluding manuals.
okay and why does it matter that things can carelessly be changed like that? The manufacturer would know what they're doing and be able to make patches that don't kill the engine.
The reason it matters is because EVs can be tuned and detuned essentially on a whim by the manufacturer with almost no mechanical complications, opening the door to dystopian levels of subscription control or even climate lockdown 10-minute city regulations that would apply uniformly to every vehicle owner in a given area.
and while knocking can be a problem with running too lean on a spark plug engine fuel flow is the core method of control for many compression engines.
Gas and spark plugs is by far the dominant sector
the only "suboptimal RPMs" would either be so low the car can't even run properly, or pointlessly high. and while knocking can be a problem with running too lean on a spark plug engine fuel flow is the core method of control for many compression engines.
You still never specified what level of control, there you were basically just talking about power limiting and even I as someone with little knowledge of car tuning can easily see a number of features that can be pieced out to sell as a subscription on an ICE vehicle. For example you could impose a limit on how far the throttle will open or change the shifting logic,
Setting limits on max throttle will create engine lugging problems due to the gearing (wrong RPMs), would make the turbo in a turbocharged car unresponsive or useless, and might wear on the transmission due to optimal shift points being missed.
Okay, but that's not inherently tied to being electric.
You are correct that there's no engineering reason that mechanical features should be tied to being electric, but the part you're missing is that "should" doesn't matter. Drive-by-wire IS tied to EVs and will always be so because EVs are fundamentally a political construction designed as a battering ram against ICE.* They're only manufactured due to a combination of regulation and subsidies, and every mover and shaker in the industry looks at them ideologically. They're not particularly shy about it either. Elon has bragged about high EV adoption rates in Norway when he knows full well that EVs have been made almost mandatory there.
*the politics lean towards automation with the goal of banning manually driven cars.
So while it's technically possible to design an EV with mechanical features, I doubt it will ever be a strong competitor (if it will even be designed).
again, same with an ICE engine with some basic precautions. Also what's with this bizare fear of ten minute cities? Out of all of our concerns that's among the lowest.
It's one of our lowest concerns in large part because it's logistically infeasible to control mass numbers of people with technology. That's where mass EV adoption would come in.
Setting aside OS updates to cars, the logistics of controlling the electric grid are far superior to the gas system and have already been used to control people's behavior on a mass scale.
most driving takes place at low throttle anyway, it wouldn't be in the wrong RPM range, you just wouldn't have much as much power. a throttle is basically an adjustable restrictor plate.
Gearing makes throttle restrictions difficult. Without enough RPM you'll be lugging the engine when switching gears, or just lugging the engine in normal operation under different conditions like an overtake.
Most turbos are designed for low end fuel economy now days so no real concern there, and for the sports cars thats just extra incentive to pay for the throttle unlock subscription and there's no reason that the software couldn't be designed to still allow the computers to blip the throttle past the usual limit to shift.
Sports car turbos would be undrivable under that system with the inconsistent boost kick you would get.
E-brake is a mechanical connection on a lot of cars. Brakes are mechanical. Gear selector on manuals is mechanical, pretty sure that's the case for modern autos as well. Doors and locks are mechanical.
Re: the drivetrain, with EV cars you can dial acceleration up or down as much as you want without hurting anything since you're just asking the motors to run at different rates. With ICE, running at suboptimal RPMs and fueling will damage your motor so there's less opportunity to push that level of control.
But because of the design philosophy, it's often not, so people are getting locked out of their Rivians.
OK you're right about that now, excluding manuals.
The reason it matters is because EVs can be tuned and detuned essentially on a whim by the manufacturer with almost no mechanical complications, opening the door to dystopian levels of subscription control or even climate lockdown 10-minute city regulations that would apply uniformly to every vehicle owner in a given area.
Gas and spark plugs is by far the dominant sector
Setting limits on max throttle will create engine lugging problems due to the gearing (wrong RPMs), would make the turbo in a turbocharged car unresponsive or useless, and might wear on the transmission due to optimal shift points being missed.
You are correct that there's no engineering reason that mechanical features should be tied to being electric, but the part you're missing is that "should" doesn't matter. Drive-by-wire IS tied to EVs and will always be so because EVs are fundamentally a political construction designed as a battering ram against ICE.* They're only manufactured due to a combination of regulation and subsidies, and every mover and shaker in the industry looks at them ideologically. They're not particularly shy about it either. Elon has bragged about high EV adoption rates in Norway when he knows full well that EVs have been made almost mandatory there.
*the politics lean towards automation with the goal of banning manually driven cars.
So while it's technically possible to design an EV with mechanical features, I doubt it will ever be a strong competitor (if it will even be designed).
It's one of our lowest concerns in large part because it's logistically infeasible to control mass numbers of people with technology. That's where mass EV adoption would come in.
Setting aside OS updates to cars, the logistics of controlling the electric grid are far superior to the gas system and have already been used to control people's behavior on a mass scale.
Gearing makes throttle restrictions difficult. Without enough RPM you'll be lugging the engine when switching gears, or just lugging the engine in normal operation under different conditions like an overtake.
Sports car turbos would be undrivable under that system with the inconsistent boost kick you would get.