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Mustang Mach-E commits suicide after realizing it will never be a Mustang (twitter.com)
posted 294 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent 294 days ago by The_Shadow_of_Intent +74 / -0
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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 2 points 294 days ago +2 / -0

ICE vehicles don't get remote updates to the drivetrain software of the ECU. Why? Because the ECU is completely tailored to the mechanical components in the car. You'd have to change the components to make an update make sense.

I'm not saying it's completely impossible for this to happen to an ICE vehicle, but it's a much more pernicious problem in EV design.

Show me a single example of an ICE vehicle getting bricked by a remote update?

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– brimshae 3 points 294 days ago +3 / -0

ICE vehicles DO get computer updates which can cause them to not start, which may not specifically be the ECU, but it's

Here's a redditor saying his Range Rover won't start: https://reveddit.com/r/LandRover/comments/1iyuw0q/my_car_wont_start_after_system_update_starts/

BMW M3: https://www.justanswer.co.uk/bmw/p7xhx-car-won-t-start-software-update-hour-2023-g81-m3.html

Another Beemer: https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1884437

2018 Pacifica Hybrid: https://www.pacificaforums.com/threads/car-wont-start-scan-came-back-with-p1d3e-code-re-install-and-update-to-latest-software-to-fix-the-issue.55970/

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 3 points 294 days ago +3 / -0

OK, it seems it happens more frequently than I thought. Probably related to the subscription-based services with the BMWs.

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– brimshae 3 points 294 days ago +3 / -0

TBF, I had to look it up just for that reply. I was a little curious, but I also don't own a car whose year model starts with "2".

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 2 points 294 days ago +2 / -0

You clearly don't understand how an ECU works

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent [S] 2 points 294 days ago +2 / -0

It looks like you're right that this is a bigger problem on post-2020 vehicles where software updates started getting normalized.

However, it is also true that an electric system is much more incrementally controllable than an ICE system. Granular levels of control are being pushed much farther on EVs for that reason.

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