"One lesson is that while repeatedly disrupting digital infrastructure might significantly lessen the activity of online communities, it may just displace them, which has been also noted in previous work [90]. Campaigners can also get bored after a few weeks, while the disrupted community is more determined to recover their gathering place.
As with the reemergence and relocation of extremist forums like 8CHAN and DAILY STORMER, KIWI FARMS is now back online. This supports the argument that truly disrupting online active platforms can be very challenging, much like the shortterm impact of shutting down cybercrime marketplaces, DDoS-for-hire services and other security threats combining efforts of both law enforcement and industry interventions such as botnets and fraudulent ad networks when botmaster is capable of momentarily deploying new modules to counteract the takedown.
Deplatforming alone may be insufficient to disperse or suppress an unpleasant online community in the long term, even when concerted action is taken by a series of tech firms over several months. It may weaken a community for a while by fragmenting their traffic and activity, and scare away casual observers, but it may also make core group members even more determined and recruit newcomers via the Streisand effect, whereby attempts at censorship can be self-defeating."
The last time a Labour government won power in Britain, it won on a promise to be ‘Tough on Crime, and Tough on the Causes of Crime’. Some scholars of online abuse are now coming to a similar conclusion that the issue may demand a more nuanced approach [3], [62]: as well as the targeted removal of content that passes an objective threshold of illegality, the private sector and governments should collaborate to combine takedowns with measures such as education and psycho-social support [112]. And where the illegality involves violence, it is even more vital to work with local police forces and social workers rather than just attacking the online symptoms [109].
with measures such as education and psycho-social support [112].
tl;dr Censoring and banning "hate speech" doesn't work long term because the users form other communities, these new communities are more toxic since only the most extreme actors stick around. Their solution is even more censorship, harder regulation and more laws, of course.
There's the Kiwi farms case. Its owner, Joshua Moon has been under heavy scrutiny. Cloudfare dropped KF (keep in mind they keep platforming 4chan among other "toxic" sites).
Moon adopted DDoS-Guard, a russian competitor of Cloudfare, then the same people pressured DDoS-Guard and they dropped KF too.
He also tried to raise money, but he kept getting denied because a couple of corporations own all the payment infraestructure and they don't like him
Moon had to develop his own DDoS protection service as a final effort.
It's hilarious the sheer length corpos had gone in order to deplatform him, the only reason KF is still around is because Moon is knowledgeable about law and tech.
Btw, the actual reason KF is targeted by so many "activists" is because they archive shit, activists and alphabets rely on normies having the memory retention of a goldfish
I know, I was there when you had to open up all the threads/pages you wanted in the early hours of the morning before the troons all woke up and sunk tens of thousands of dollars into DDOSing the entire platform.
I was more interested in what the no doubt dickless scholars "on the right side of history" had to say about the whole thing. Just as I expected, their proposed ideology is to triple down on what already clearly isn't working.
"One lesson is that while repeatedly disrupting digital infrastructure might significantly lessen the activity of online communities, it may just displace them, which has been also noted in previous work [90]. Campaigners can also get bored after a few weeks, while the disrupted community is more determined to recover their gathering place.
As with the reemergence and relocation of extremist forums like 8CHAN and DAILY STORMER, KIWI FARMS is now back online. This supports the argument that truly disrupting online active platforms can be very challenging, much like the shortterm impact of shutting down cybercrime marketplaces, DDoS-for-hire services and other security threats combining efforts of both law enforcement and industry interventions such as botnets and fraudulent ad networks when botmaster is capable of momentarily deploying new modules to counteract the takedown.
Deplatforming alone may be insufficient to disperse or suppress an unpleasant online community in the long term, even when concerted action is taken by a series of tech firms over several months. It may weaken a community for a while by fragmenting their traffic and activity, and scare away casual observers, but it may also make core group members even more determined and recruit newcomers via the Streisand effect, whereby attempts at censorship can be self-defeating."
Lol. Lmao even.
Kiwi farms isn't more extremist than Reddit or Bluesky. Both of those platforms are able to get away with worse. Remember Mikayla Raines?
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2304.07037
these retards won't make it
Not reading an entire fucking thesis on why "freeze peach is heccin' bad yo", gimme the cliffnotes
tl;dr Censoring and banning "hate speech" doesn't work long term because the users form other communities, these new communities are more toxic since only the most extreme actors stick around. Their solution is even more censorship, harder regulation and more laws, of course.
There's the Kiwi farms case. Its owner, Joshua Moon has been under heavy scrutiny. Cloudfare dropped KF (keep in mind they keep platforming 4chan among other "toxic" sites).
Moon adopted DDoS-Guard, a russian competitor of Cloudfare, then the same people pressured DDoS-Guard and they dropped KF too.
He also tried to raise money, but he kept getting denied because a couple of corporations own all the payment infraestructure and they don't like him
Moon had to develop his own DDoS protection service as a final effort.
It's hilarious the sheer length corpos had gone in order to deplatform him, the only reason KF is still around is because Moon is knowledgeable about law and tech.
Btw, the actual reason KF is targeted by so many "activists" is because they archive shit, activists and alphabets rely on normies having the memory retention of a goldfish
I know, I was there when you had to open up all the threads/pages you wanted in the early hours of the morning before the troons all woke up and sunk tens of thousands of dollars into DDOSing the entire platform.
I was more interested in what the no doubt dickless scholars "on the right side of history" had to say about the whole thing. Just as I expected, their proposed ideology is to triple down on what already clearly isn't working.