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Porn isn't free. You pay with your soul, time, and dignity. (youtube.com)
posted 324 days ago by Webspawner3 324 days ago by Webspawner3 +65 / -0
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– Bouldabassed 8 points 323 days ago +8 / -0

That is all true, but it doesn't change the reality that mass porn addiction is a symptom, not the root problem. A very problematic symptom, but a symptom nonetheless.

The deck is stacked against men in many aspects of society and relationships. For many men, having more energy is not going to be the difference between being a porn addicted virgin and being a happily married family man. Now, it would likely be the difference for a small percentage, but not for a large amount. Anyone asserting it would be some transformative change for society without fixing other factors is deluding themselves.

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– Niemo 3 points 323 days ago +3 / -0

No porn is a causative issue of these problems. I totally disagree. You're just asserting things without proof. Porn is proven to cause mental issues and brain restructuring as well as dopamine overstimulation.

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– Piroko 4 points 323 days ago +4 / -0

porn is a causative issue

It is not, the same thing happened to Rome when women got economic power two thousand years ago.

You want to end this, you need to find a moral rationale for forcing feminism and all the white knights back into obedience to patriarchy. So far as we've seen the only culture with the stones to do that is Islam, and there are doubts about how long even they can hold out.

Like, if CHINA, MOTHERFUCKING PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA can't find it in themselves to make back to the kitchen into state policy, do you think we have any chance of doing it in a representative democracy?

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– Niemo 1 point 322 days ago +1 / -0

How will you develop that culture of masculinity when most men are sitting around nutting all the time to porn and getting angry when you point out its damaging them and weakening their ability to actually affect change?

Porn is peak simp culture. Whacking it to some degen whore who doesn't even know you exist. Cuck shit. Simp shit.

Stop whining about democracy and china when its fairly simple to stop young men, especially children, from falling into the pornhole.

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– Bouldabassed 3 points 323 days ago +3 / -0

It's a factor, but you're kidding yourself if you think the problems we are facing regarding breakdown in relationships, loneliness, marriage rates, fertility rates, etc would be solved by eliminating porn. They would not be.

That doesn't mean I am saying porn is good or that it doesn't restructure the brain, or that eliminating it wouldn't move the needle at all.

The entire culture around relationships and the toxic nature of many modern women does not go away by eliminating porn. Rigged family courts do not get fixed by eliminating porn. Dating apps giving mid women an over inflated sense of value and eternally screwing how their mind views relationships does not go away by eliminating porn etc etc.

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– Niemo 1 point 322 days ago +1 / -0

Dating apps are basically porn light/prostitution. Men change all those things in society and when men are hooked on porn they wither away and can't change those things.

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– BeefyBelisarius 1 point 323 days ago +1 / -0

Chicken, egg, vicious cycle.

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