Recently Jubilee hosted another "1 vs. 20" roundtable where the 1 was subversive prog Mehdi Hasan and the 20 were "far-right conservatives" found on the internet. Right wing influencer "Pinesap" argued with Hasan for a few minutes, said some wild stuff, then got fired when the roundtable went viral.
His cancellation isn't the interesting part - it's more that his performance has been divisive on the right wing. Initially there was a positive reaction on X, but the backlash has been building for a few days. So here are some thoughts.
Right away Pinesap says he doesn't care about the Constitution and thinks Trump should be more anti-Constitution
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The point is first that the Constitution can be changed if it's hurting us ("the Constitution is not a suicide pact"), but the specifics are that free speech in the First Amendment should be repealed because it allows pr0n and blasphemy. So right away we come to the rub of the issue: he's is a Catholic theocrat (groyper/Fuentes orbiter) and openly says that the Constitution should be remodeled as such.
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Unsurprisingly, I see a lot of problems with this. Free speech is essential to accountability and innovation, and it's a God-given natural right. Nobody has the authority to hijack the country to stop people from criticizing their religion.
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Also, the First Amendment does not protect pornography. Obscenity can still be banned under the Miller test if the culture agrees.
He then states support of an autocracy (obviously) and supports democracy up to the point that it will start this autocracy
- The surprising thing about this part was how credulous he seems to be about common criticisms of dictatorship. He's not worried about potentially being on the wrong side of the autocrat because of Carl Schmitt's friend/enemy distinction, which doesn't make any sense.
On a dare from Hasan, Pinesap then proudly admits he's a fascist
- Weirdly enough, he admits he's a fascist but he starts hedging about whether Nazis were right to persecute Jews. I don't think this is out of any hidden pro-Jewish sentiment, but more out of caution... which is interesting.
He then professes support of free speech because it will allow him to advocate fascism, then subsequently ban free speech
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And now he's fired and has a GiveSendGo that condemns "cancel culture and political discrimination," which is exactly what he wants to enact.
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Should I donate to this guy? I don't know about that. If you believe no one should be fired because of their political views, then this is a great example of the paradox of tolerance.
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The thing is, I believe some people should be fired and ostracized for their political views. I don't want the culture to tolerate (much less protect) progs and furries and people with the trans flag on their coffee mugs. So there's nothing in my principles that says I should support a guy advocating for blasphemy laws for his religion.
The audience clapped loudly for "Catholic theocracy" and "I'm a fascist," but only one guy clapped for "America should be majority white"
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Lol.
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These appear to be very edgy attention-seeking people looking to make a career out of provocateur media and connecting with behind-the-scenes influence networks to make it happen, such as the groyper orbit. (Yet again, Sarah Stock shows up at a Jubilee event.) I'm starting to think that these are right wing theater kids.
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Maybe I'm being too cynical, or maybe this is just wishful thinking, but it seems like the whole scene is going to become Lauren Southern 2.0.
I haven't seen it but he sounds like an idiot who will draw fire on your position if you align yourself with him. Going on this show at all sounds like a trap, but if you do you should at least have some idea how to present your position as palatable to normal people. Tell people you don't support democracy as the highest virtue for the same reason you aren't giving Genghis Khan the title of World's #1 Dad and people will be more agreeable to your position than if you tell them you want to create a totalitarian theocracy.