Yeah, that worked great for all those societies in human history. Like the one who performed human sacrifices, even children, muslim countries were women are basically objects, communism where they can kill or enslave any citizen they want, dictatorships like North Korea or extreme Authoritarianism like China where there's no private life and people can boarded up in their own homes...
Look at the most civilised countries in the world, by "coincidence", they are almost all funded on Christians beliefs.
No, no, please, continue cherry picking examples. We don't need to discuss extreme christian examples like inquisition-era Spain, or any part of the Byzantine empire, nor do we need to discuss any abuses done by the christian or catholic church. It was always exactly perfect in your specific examples, and certainly perfect elsewhere. And we certainly don't need to discuss successful and prosperous civilizations like ancient china, or greece, or rome, or any of a bunch of other non-christian nations. They never existed, since we've not chosen them while cherry picking.
Also, it's rich to try to tar the mohammedians with a "children and women are objects, not people" when the exact same requirements appear in christian, catholic, and jewish traditions as well. Almost like there was a common ancestor religion that had a bunch of breakaways...
But never mind that. As we know, jesus people good, mohammed people bad.
Even heard of the Old Testament? The part that's the majority of the Bible?
Plenty of laws were written in it, while all their neighbours had instead terrible laws and morals.
Something something Code of Hammurabi something something oldest known legal codex with moral prescriptions something something basis for a lot of classic legal systems.
And, again, we'll skip over inconvenient places like the mediterranean, where people made perfectly functional laws and societies while worshipping a completely different set of magic sky kings, and oddly enough seemed to prosper.
If it's your "own moral" and nothing else, then it doesn't matter. What matters is the moral the society you live in use. If you don't believe abortions is moral, yet the entire society thinks so, do you think "Judging them" is going to change anything at all?
Meanwhile, they can think that killing you is moral because you don't agree with their points and you're a danger to society (exactly what the modern Left is doing right now).
At the risk of being accused of fedposting, judging people for their actions does plenty if and when you act in it. If you just retreat to your jesus safety blanket and say "my god calls that a sin! You are the bad people!", well, all you've done is bloviated and patted yourself on the back while, in your estimation, innocent babies were being murdered.
What was that old quote, that all it takes for evil to win is for good men to do nothing, or something to that effect? That's you, the good man doing less then nothing, because you have a religion to hide inside to support your moral code.
And as for my enemies, they can think killing me is moral all day, until they begin to act on it. At which point I will judge them with my morals, and my morals are cast in steel and etched in brass. Again, at the risk of being called an internet tough guy or a glowie, I don't need anyone's god to tell me what is right or wrong, and I don't need anyone's church to serve as the impetus for my actions.
Why do you? Am I somehow that much better than you? I don't believe so; I like to imagine we're fairly comparable as individuals. Surely we can both stand out in the cold and do the hard tasks that need to be done, without the need for a safety blanket drsped over our backs and clasped around our throats.
No, no, please, continue cherry picking examples. We don't need to discuss extreme christian examples like inquisition-era Spain, or any part of the Byzantine empire, nor do we need to discuss any abuses done by the christian or catholic church. It was always exactly perfect in your specific examples, and certainly perfect elsewhere. And we certainly don't need to discuss successful and prosperous civilizations like ancient china, or greece, or rome, or any of a bunch of other non-christian nations. They never existed, since we've not chosen them while cherry picking.
Also, it's rich to try to tar the mohammedians with a "children and women are objects, not people" when the exact same requirements appear in christian, catholic, and jewish traditions as well. Almost like there was a common ancestor religion that had a bunch of breakaways...
But never mind that. As we know, jesus people good, mohammed people bad.
Something something Code of Hammurabi something something oldest known legal codex with moral prescriptions something something basis for a lot of classic legal systems.
And, again, we'll skip over inconvenient places like the mediterranean, where people made perfectly functional laws and societies while worshipping a completely different set of magic sky kings, and oddly enough seemed to prosper.
At the risk of being accused of fedposting, judging people for their actions does plenty if and when you act in it. If you just retreat to your jesus safety blanket and say "my god calls that a sin! You are the bad people!", well, all you've done is bloviated and patted yourself on the back while, in your estimation, innocent babies were being murdered.
What was that old quote, that all it takes for evil to win is for good men to do nothing, or something to that effect? That's you, the good man doing less then nothing, because you have a religion to hide inside to support your moral code.
And as for my enemies, they can think killing me is moral all day, until they begin to act on it. At which point I will judge them with my morals, and my morals are cast in steel and etched in brass. Again, at the risk of being called an internet tough guy or a glowie, I don't need anyone's god to tell me what is right or wrong, and I don't need anyone's church to serve as the impetus for my actions.
Why do you? Am I somehow that much better than you? I don't believe so; I like to imagine we're fairly comparable as individuals. Surely we can both stand out in the cold and do the hard tasks that need to be done, without the need for a safety blanket drsped over our backs and clasped around our throats.