See, I think all the talk of 'regime change' was a diversion. It stretched the Overton Window. When people got worried about 'boots on the ground', like many people naively did here, anything short of that will sound good to them.
If I told these same people who are cheering this now, one month before, that Israel would make Trump its bitch, blow up the negotiations and kill the lead negotiator, stage a bombing run that killed almost as many people as on October 7, and then would goad Trump into bombing Iran, they'd been absolutely against it, but now they're relieved.
It's the Zelensky strategy. No matter how much he gets, he'll always demand more, which makes it look like what he is getting is the middle ground position. "We're not even giving PRESIDENT Zelensky what he is asking for even though his COUNTRY is fighting for us and the world's freedom."
When people got worried about 'boots on the ground', like many people naively did here, anything short of that will sound good to them.
I noticed that too, at the time even.
"Boots on the ground" is terrible, and I'd condemn it, but it's not the hard and fast red line some people think.
In some ways, engaging on war without boots on the ground can cause more anger and retaliation. If we're "just bombing" someone, they can't reach us. So they'll resort to terrorism. Boots on the ground at least gives them an enemy to fight.
I absolutely condemn boots on the ground. But I also condemn the actions that come before that.
In some ways, engaging on war without boots on the ground can cause more anger and retaliation.
Was just thinking about how Anwar Sadat started the 1973 war and this led to some positive outcomes, like peace with Israel and the return of Sinai, and that this might be similar.
The major difference was of course, as you say, that this was a bombing raid. And people really, really hate being bombed to an extent that the people in countries dishing it out probably have no idea. They don't mind something like bombing a nuclear facility quite as much, but the Iranians will try their best to connect America to what the Israelis did, which is reasonable because they were backing Israel to the hilt.
If we're "just bombing" someone, they can't reach us. So they'll resort to terrorism.
Bombing is so easy and normalized, with possible consequences so far in the future to not appear related, that it's been the solution to everything.
See, I think all the talk of 'regime change' was a diversion. It stretched the Overton Window. When people got worried about 'boots on the ground', like many people naively did here, anything short of that will sound good to them.
If I told these same people who are cheering this now, one month before, that Israel would make Trump its bitch, blow up the negotiations and kill the lead negotiator, stage a bombing run that killed almost as many people as on October 7, and then would goad Trump into bombing Iran, they'd been absolutely against it, but now they're relieved.
It's the Zelensky strategy. No matter how much he gets, he'll always demand more, which makes it look like what he is getting is the middle ground position. "We're not even giving PRESIDENT Zelensky what he is asking for even though his COUNTRY is fighting for us and the world's freedom."
I noticed that too, at the time even.
"Boots on the ground" is terrible, and I'd condemn it, but it's not the hard and fast red line some people think.
In some ways, engaging on war without boots on the ground can cause more anger and retaliation. If we're "just bombing" someone, they can't reach us. So they'll resort to terrorism. Boots on the ground at least gives them an enemy to fight.
I absolutely condemn boots on the ground. But I also condemn the actions that come before that.
Was just thinking about how Anwar Sadat started the 1973 war and this led to some positive outcomes, like peace with Israel and the return of Sinai, and that this might be similar.
The major difference was of course, as you say, that this was a bombing raid. And people really, really hate being bombed to an extent that the people in countries dishing it out probably have no idea. They don't mind something like bombing a nuclear facility quite as much, but the Iranians will try their best to connect America to what the Israelis did, which is reasonable because they were backing Israel to the hilt.
Bombing is so easy and normalized, with possible consequences so far in the future to not appear related, that it's been the solution to everything.