"They hate us" is not a valid reason to declare war. And we should try to figure out why they hate us, and see if we can resolve that. Spoilers below.
Pro tip: We could make Iran hate us a lot less - enough to be even less of a threat than they currently are - and do it, not just for free, but it would actually save us money. Stop paying Israel, and stop unconditionally supporting them. Stop paying Egypt, stop paying Jordan, etc.
Also, we have politicians who, albeit more diplomatically and less directly (usually), shout "Death to Iran!" And we as a nation voted for them, so we're actually more culpable than the Iranian civilians who would get caught in the conflict. Does this mean Iran is justified in attacking us? We already have nukes, too! So we're even more dangerous!
It really is just disgustingly hypocritical and brazen to say we should kill Iran's leader and go to war with them because they say "Death to America." Are these people so blind they don't realize saying "War with Iran!" is the same thing?
Also, not wanting to destroy Iran is not "pro-Iran," you freaking psychopaths. I'm not pro-Iran. I'm against unnecessary wars, unnecessary deaths, and unnecessary wastes of money and resources. I don't want war with Iran, not because I love Iran, but because I love America, and hate mass death of anyone.
Bottom of the barrel are the geniuses who only recently liked Trump but don’t understand him enough to distinguish him from a Bush.
I don't even get this one. Is she saying that we need to trust Trump, and this Middle Eastern regime change war will be handled better? Trust the plan?! No, I know Trump and Bush are different...which is why I don't want Trump behaving like he's Bush!
"They hate us" is not a valid reason to declare war. And we should try to figure out why they hate us, and see if we can resolve that.
There has been so much endless meddling in the region that there can only ever be a dishonest enemy. For generations the entire region has been bombed, overthrown, installed and bombed again. Of course "they hate us" after all of that and more.
Stop meddling and let the region collapse or collect its strength. Make an honest enemy of them. If "they hate us" still prevails then the argument has merit and these people will get the war they're after to thunderous applause. But that can ONLY be true if they're an honest enemy.
Bonus points, allowing the region to gather its strength could lead to a muslim call to return to the region.
I don't give enough of a shit about the whole thing but that's more being against half arsing it. Glass it or leave it and maybe glass it later. The current rhetoric is just dumb given the politics and war circumstances in play.
Stop paying everyone basically. All the maga pretend it's such a diplomatic minefield now, and it doesn't have to be. Instead we pay off everyone and makes friends and enemies around the world doing that. If we just stay out of it there wouldn't be such a minefield.
It's all so retarded.
"They hate us" is not a valid reason to declare war. And we should try to figure out why they hate us, and see if we can resolve that. Spoilers below.
Pro tip: We could make Iran hate us a lot less - enough to be even less of a threat than they currently are - and do it, not just for free, but it would actually save us money. Stop paying Israel, and stop unconditionally supporting them. Stop paying Egypt, stop paying Jordan, etc.
Also, we have politicians who, albeit more diplomatically and less directly (usually), shout "Death to Iran!" And we as a nation voted for them, so we're actually more culpable than the Iranian civilians who would get caught in the conflict. Does this mean Iran is justified in attacking us? We already have nukes, too! So we're even more dangerous!
It really is just disgustingly hypocritical and brazen to say we should kill Iran's leader and go to war with them because they say "Death to America." Are these people so blind they don't realize saying "War with Iran!" is the same thing?
Also, not wanting to destroy Iran is not "pro-Iran," you freaking psychopaths. I'm not pro-Iran. I'm against unnecessary wars, unnecessary deaths, and unnecessary wastes of money and resources. I don't want war with Iran, not because I love Iran, but because I love America, and hate mass death of anyone.
I don't even get this one. Is she saying that we need to trust Trump, and this Middle Eastern regime change war will be handled better? Trust the plan?! No, I know Trump and Bush are different...which is why I don't want Trump behaving like he's Bush!
There has been so much endless meddling in the region that there can only ever be a dishonest enemy. For generations the entire region has been bombed, overthrown, installed and bombed again. Of course "they hate us" after all of that and more.
Stop meddling and let the region collapse or collect its strength. Make an honest enemy of them. If "they hate us" still prevails then the argument has merit and these people will get the war they're after to thunderous applause. But that can ONLY be true if they're an honest enemy.
Bonus points, allowing the region to gather its strength could lead to a muslim call to return to the region.
I don't give enough of a shit about the whole thing but that's more being against half arsing it. Glass it or leave it and maybe glass it later. The current rhetoric is just dumb given the politics and war circumstances in play.
All they had to do was pay the fucking oil royalties. But no, the Big GAE thought Operation Boot was cheaper.
Stop paying everyone basically. All the maga pretend it's such a diplomatic minefield now, and it doesn't have to be. Instead we pay off everyone and makes friends and enemies around the world doing that. If we just stay out of it there wouldn't be such a minefield.