Peterson knocked off his fence perch by smug child
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No, he absolutely was destroyed. Remove all the specific labels regarding Christian/Atheist and he still was destroyed.
He is constantly shifting around, refusing to answer anything, and has completely lost frame. The kid has him squirming and trying to act tough and in control when he can't even answer a simple question and has to "watch your tone with me!!" to pull the only card he has (age/experience).
It doesn't matter if its bad faith, when you are in a debate setting and have made your fame dominating others in bad faith battles (like the famous lobster one) you need to put on a better show.
Remove all the specific labels about Christians or atheists and nothing was said. JP was pushing back on small assumptions and waiting for the atheist to make his point, which I'm guessing had to do with The Mary Question. Instead of actually making that point, he quibbled about the specific labels you mentioned. And that's all that happened.
Not quite. He got Peterson to as good as admit that Peterson doesn't hold the Christian position. Not a death knell in the Atheism-Theism debate, but makes make Peterson seem odd when the following dialogue was :
Even ignoring whether or not Peterson should be playing the role he is, that quibbling is insane. “Why are you asking me that?” I don’t know, because you showed up to a debate to play the opposing side? How else did you expect this to go? The atheists monologue without ever talking to you directly and you get to interject when you spot rhetorical weakness, but pretend to be above it all like you’re the commentator is some sort of political version of MST3K?
I really hate to defend this smug atheist, but those labels were important in the context of the debate. If JP refuses to identify as a Catholic, or even a Christian, then he has no anchored principle to even make a point against in a Christian vs Atheist debate. How can you even begin the conversation if every presupposed position is suddenly "nu uh, I ain't that either!"
So without the labels, JP is just waffling badly. With them, he fails as a Christian by denying Christ and doing so for some beneficial purpose. I guess to not be attached to the baggage of the label.