Which is usually what Rogan is best at. It humanized Musk back when, it did it for Dorsey, it works for most people who aren't completely compromised idiots whose "normal" mode is completely unlikeable like Adam Conover.

Problem is, I don't think Harris was remotely capable of that. She was so fake that if she tried to loosen up she might end up saying some real nigga shit and tank herself in a different way.