Almost all of the comments are about this issue of experts:
"Dude is an expert in recognising experts." - noticing that Murray wasn't an expert.
"Douglas spent a lot of time saying Cooper needs to be debunked, but he didn’t spend any time debunking him." - Lamenting that nobody presented the pro-Israel case.
"Listening to this guy talk in circles is making my hangover return. And yes, I am an expert on hangovers." Accepting the premise of experts credibility.
Tons of comments along this similar vein. Do you see ANY top comments about what Israel has done in Palestine? Not even a mention of Palestine being carpet bombed.
Murray did not come there to debate Israel/Palestine, he came there to trash JRE for not being a credible forum and he accomplished that - by making a mockery of the episode.
Almost all of the comments are about this issue of experts
And they're all sarcastic. They're ripping Doug for being a retard.
"Dude is an expert in recognising experts." - noticing that Murray wasn't an expert.
Mocking his expert stance entirely, I'd say.
"Douglas spent a lot of time saying Cooper needs to be debunked, but he didn’t spend any time debunking him." - Lamenting that nobody presented the pro-Israel case.
No, they're saying he wasn't presenting an actual argument, and was being disingenuous and trying to smear Cooper. This is not lamenting shit, it's pointing out that Doug brought nothing, and Cooper is untouched by his schtick.
"Listening to this guy talk in circles is making my hangover return. And yes, I am an expert on hangovers." Accepting the premise of experts credibility.
Another joke at Murray and the expert's expense.
Do you see ANY top comments about what Israel has done in Palestine? Not even a mention of Palestine being carpet bombed.
There are some.
"Murray saying Dave shouldn’t take US wars personally made my jaw drop. Yes, we Americans are responsible for what our government does and who they kill. It’s our tax money they’re using to do it. We vote for the representatives. This is a government supposedly of the people, by the people, for the people. WE are responsible and we want these wars to STOP!"
But it doesn't matter. There could be none, and it wouldn't matter. No one is going to forget about what's happening there, just because Doug's retardation rose to the forefront of this particular discussion. Him being a jackass may have deflected from this particular discussion, but that's much different than pushing Israel's side. In fact, even if people aren't talking about Israel/Palestine specifically, it still drives home that the pro-Israel side isn't bringing anything but dirty tactics and zero arguments. This was a loss across the board for them.
Murray did not come there to debate Israel/Palestine, he came there to trash JRE for not being a credible forum and he accomplished that - by making a mockery of the episode.
Eh. To some extent. Again, I don't think it matters in the greater scheme of things. Murray making a fool of himself didn't help his or Israel's cause. It just make him look like a clown. People will still talk about things and, unless Rogan is a mega cuck, Rogan will keep having the exact same types of guests on. And I think he will; he was pissed at Doug's clownery.
You also do have plenty of comments explicitly calling out his censorship effort:
This is the strongest evidence of thought policing I have ever seen.
I'm so glad they finally discussed actual issues. I was afraid the entire podcast would be people talking about who is entitled to talk.
The difference between someone with an agenda vs someone who just wants the right thing
AIPAC should demand for a refund LOL
God forbid anyone to question what has been taught in history because we've always been told the absolute truth
I'm only 53 minutes in so obviously nothing has been debated. Just listening to Douglas Murray explain why this conversation shouldn't be happening. Really interested to see if anything happens.
You don’t have to be a carpenter to say the table wobbles.
Why should normal humans have their own opinions? Everyone should just parrot the lies told by the experts we pay.
And many more.
Anyone can cherry pick and say the audience is saying anything.
And, again, I do think a lot of the stuff you're saying is pro-expert is actually quite anti-expert.
Bro read my comment.
"Douglas Murray was the sacrificial lamb, the intellectual suicide bomber"
In other words, Murray blew up his credibility in service of Israel.
You said people left wishing Joe would have more experts on. Almost nobody left saying that. Murray was a suicide bomber, but he barely made a dent.
Almost all of the comments are about this issue of experts:
"Dude is an expert in recognising experts." - noticing that Murray wasn't an expert.
"Douglas spent a lot of time saying Cooper needs to be debunked, but he didn’t spend any time debunking him." - Lamenting that nobody presented the pro-Israel case.
"Listening to this guy talk in circles is making my hangover return. And yes, I am an expert on hangovers." Accepting the premise of experts credibility.
Tons of comments along this similar vein. Do you see ANY top comments about what Israel has done in Palestine? Not even a mention of Palestine being carpet bombed.
Murray did not come there to debate Israel/Palestine, he came there to trash JRE for not being a credible forum and he accomplished that - by making a mockery of the episode.
And they're all sarcastic. They're ripping Doug for being a retard.
Mocking his expert stance entirely, I'd say.
No, they're saying he wasn't presenting an actual argument, and was being disingenuous and trying to smear Cooper. This is not lamenting shit, it's pointing out that Doug brought nothing, and Cooper is untouched by his schtick.
Another joke at Murray and the expert's expense.
There are some.
"Murray saying Dave shouldn’t take US wars personally made my jaw drop. Yes, we Americans are responsible for what our government does and who they kill. It’s our tax money they’re using to do it. We vote for the representatives. This is a government supposedly of the people, by the people, for the people. WE are responsible and we want these wars to STOP!"
But it doesn't matter. There could be none, and it wouldn't matter. No one is going to forget about what's happening there, just because Doug's retardation rose to the forefront of this particular discussion. Him being a jackass may have deflected from this particular discussion, but that's much different than pushing Israel's side. In fact, even if people aren't talking about Israel/Palestine specifically, it still drives home that the pro-Israel side isn't bringing anything but dirty tactics and zero arguments. This was a loss across the board for them.
Eh. To some extent. Again, I don't think it matters in the greater scheme of things. Murray making a fool of himself didn't help his or Israel's cause. It just make him look like a clown. People will still talk about things and, unless Rogan is a mega cuck, Rogan will keep having the exact same types of guests on. And I think he will; he was pissed at Doug's clownery.
You also do have plenty of comments explicitly calling out his censorship effort:
And many more.
Anyone can cherry pick and say the audience is saying anything.
And, again, I do think a lot of the stuff you're saying is pro-expert is actually quite anti-expert.
Honestly nothing could prove the point for me better than your reply here.
Yeah OK, I don't think the episode will actually derail the conversation though. We will see.