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Top US officials coordinated military attack over signal group chat. (twitter.com)
posted 2 months ago by SophiesBoyfriend 2 months ago by SophiesBoyfriend +56 / -2
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– deleted 14 points 2 months ago +14 / -0
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– MattTheBlack 13 points 2 months ago +13 / -0

Our military is pretty retarded. Our ability to destroy foes is amazing but they're still retarded

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– MargarineMongoose 10 points 2 months ago +10 / -0

You know how Hollywood is shit? That also applies to their depictions of the military. Spend some time listening to the stories of any given serviceman and you will quickly understand just how slipshod the entire thing is.

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– Adamrises 7 points 2 months ago +7 / -0

The necessary safeguards and additional steps to make something secure are also usually slower and more annoying, which is just how it will always be.

So what keeps fucking happening is that military personnel are more interested in being able to text and use the internet easier, and so they break security doing shit like this.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 5 points 2 months ago +5 / -0

Of course they do. But do the secure options work between military and all the other people involve? Are they as easy to use or as good (user features) as as convenient? No, but they are secure.

Who knows, maybe everyone was using hardened phones already. Either way, major fuckup. Anyone who freaked out over Hillary's email server should be really upset by this too.

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– fauxgnaws 7 points 2 months ago +7 / -0

The problem with Hillary wasn't really the email server; at most this could get a peon doing the same fired for not CC'ing them to the national archives. For Secretary of State that's a nothingburger.

The problem was her deleting half of them after learning they would be subpoenaed (anticipatory obstruction), then later deleting them again after being served the subpoena. She went out of her way to purposely use her phone in top secret areas - intentional, not even negligence. And negligently failed to secure her private SCIF of top secret info. These are all things that normal people go to jail for.

This reporter being added to the Signal chat seems to be a simple accident (not negligence) and they only discussed at most Secret info, which isn't required to stay in a secure area.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 1 point 2 months ago +1 / -0

This reporter being added to the Signal chat seems to be a simple accident (not negligence) and they only discussed at most Secret info, which isn't required to stay in a secure area.

Hard to say. If it was discussing operational details and information that was gained via TS means (SI, etc) then technically it all could have been under TS.

Agree 100% about Hillary.

How the fuck does someone invite a journalist into the group chat and no one notices? Crazy

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– fauxgnaws 1 point 2 months ago +1 / -0

The reporter's only implication any of it was Top Secret is that some of it "could conceivably have been used" (past tense) by adversaries. First of all there's worlds of unclassified data a Trump-hater could conceive could be used against us. Second of all, what a weak statement from somebody who claims they consulted security experts for the story.

And a CIA officer's name is not classified unless they are a secret agent, which this guy is certainly not. In fact I bet it's a well-known person the author purposely withheld for the narrative.

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– MattTheBlack 1 point 2 months ago +1 / -0

If Hillary Clinton didn't go to prison then this is a nothing burger

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– Hullohoomans 3 points 2 months ago +3 / -0

Signal was literally created by the military.

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– deleted 1 point 2 months ago +1 / -0

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