C'mon man, you don't have to turn an explicitly neutral statement into an excuse to put words into mouths.
And despite the propaganda Lincoln was neither the first nor only American to make efforts to make or keep the united states one of the great contiguous polities of the world.
I meant the 'achievement' point, but yeah, I missed that part - I tend to shoot first and ask questions later.
Lincoln may not have been the first, but if he had not conquered the south, then there would have been a very powerful rival. It's paradise for us, because we would not be under the American boot, but it would have been bad for American empire.
The fact the union stretches from ocean to ocean is an American achievement not an accident of geography.
Balkanization was always an option and it was only avoided by great effort and sacrifice. Whether for the net good or bad.
I feel strongly that engaging with Tony is a mistake. I should’ve said nothing.
I guess you do like Lincoln.
C'mon man, you don't have to turn an explicitly neutral statement into an excuse to put words into mouths.
And despite the propaganda Lincoln was neither the first nor only American to make efforts to make or keep the united states one of the great contiguous polities of the world.
I meant the 'achievement' point, but yeah, I missed that part - I tend to shoot first and ask questions later.
Lincoln may not have been the first, but if he had not conquered the south, then there would have been a very powerful rival. It's paradise for us, because we would not be under the American boot, but it would have been bad for American empire.