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NYPost: Trump supports immigration visas backed by Musk: ‘I have many H-1B visas on my properties’ (archive.is)
posted 1 year ago by PatrikStar24 1 year ago by PatrikStar24 +98 / -0
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– Gizortnik 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

So yes Musk is retarded and should probably be shot

FFS, calm down. Hyper-intelligent autistic immigrant thinks he can use a government program to get more people like himself should be killed because he's not in agreement with you over a single program? Get a grip.

He's being an autistic retard on the internet, do not respond with additional retardation.

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– Adamrises 14 points 1 year ago +14 / -0

Ironic that an offhand joke in an otherwise equal post about telling people to "calm down" is given the defense of "plz be patient he has autism" from a man too autistic to parse a deliberate exaggeration for comedic effect.

So, I'll de-joke with you. No he shouldn't be shot over this. His position is foolish but its both not illegal to be stupid on Twitter nor does he have any true power to put this in effect (yet).

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– Gizortnik 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Fine, sorry, there's a lot of annoying "guess we'll just die because Trump killed us".

Yes, I do sometimes need comment broken down barney style with /s

And I'll add, he's abjectly wrong about it. He's wrong about attracting better workers (most of them aren't that good), he's wrong about attracted educated workers (most of them committed fraud), he's wrong about there being a STEM shortage (that's actually wrong & is a condemnation of the Universities). Even down to his point that labor is the primary limiting factor in the success of his innovation and companies (that's true of literally all businesses).

Frankly, people should be focusing on his original point of "educated and motivated" people. The most over-educated population in the world is de-motivated. Well, I have some good ideas about why!

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– Adamrises 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

It happens and for all our disagreements I appreciate we can admit these misunderstandings when they happen.

And yes, he is wrong in nearly every way about it. Only the most imbecilic of people could agree with Elon on this, or people who put money ahead of everything else and know they can make a buck on it.

But, as the point I keep trying to badger people here about on every topic shows, people can't just say that in a sincere and convincing manner. It has to be "MAGA HAS FALLEN EVERYONE ABANDON SHIP."

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Only the most imbecilic of people could agree with Elon on this, or people who put money ahead of everything else and know they can make a buck on it.

I wouldn't go that far: I'd say this is very "default liberal" limited thinking. "Line go up is more good? Yes." I think, unfortunately, if you put out a survey on his position, the vast majority of people would agree. And that is a real problem that the dissident right has to contend with: a lot of good, true, and productive positions aren't shared.

I guess from a Libertarian perspective, the strongest arguments my side has is economic ones and individualist ones. We can mathematically prove that rent control doesn't work, but it doesn't mean that people won't keep voting for them.

This is why Sargon was absolutely losing his shit after seeing a YouGov poll. Not only do some people not get it, but they literally do not know any opposing argument because the overton window was closed to the point that some people believe CNN is a right wing network. Thankfully, the Fabian Society isn't based out of our capital city like in the UK, but all this shows is just how much work we have to do to, I'd hate to say it, educate people. Even on our own side.

If Reform UK has 30% of it's members supporting Feminism, and Elon believes that H1-B's are super cool, it just shows us the work we have to do, even within our own side.

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– covok48 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

This is…sensible advice.

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