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JD Vance refuses to accept the fake fact check and calls out the moderators on it so they shut his mic. Incredible (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by SophiesBoyfriend 1 year ago by SophiesBoyfriend +157 / -0
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– Gizortnik 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Because the Republican and Conservative establishment are controlled opposition who are supposed to go to debates to lose.

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– redman012 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

What were the specific topics they asked about anyway?

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– Assassin47 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I found a transcript here. Asking GPT to give me the summarized list of questions returned this (check for yourself, I'm not vouching for accuracy of the chatbot):

Questions Asked by the Moderators:

  1. Governor Walz, if you are the final voice in the situation room, would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran?
  2. Senator Vance, the same question, would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran?
  3. Senator Vance, according to CBS News polling, what responsibility would the Trump administration have to try and reduce the impact of climate change?
  4. Governor Walz, would you like to respond to the Senator's allegations?
  5. Senator Vance, your campaign is pledging to carry out the largest mass deportation plan in American history. Could you be more specific about how this will work?
  6. Governor Walz, do you care to respond to any of those specific allegations regarding children?
  7. The Governor mentioned that President Trump has called climate change a hoax. Do you agree?
  8. Governor Walz, how would you pay for the proposed economic plans without ballooning the deficit?
  9. Senator Vance, how do you pay for your economic plan without ballooning the deficit?
  10. Governor Walz, can you explain the discrepancy about your presence in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square protest?
  11. Senator Vance, you have called Donald Trump unfit for office and stated he could be America's Hitler. Why should Americans trust that you will give him the advice he needs to hear, and not just advice he wants to hear?
  12. Governor Walz, after Roe v. Wade was overturned, is it true that you support abortion in the ninth month?
  13. Senator Vance, earlier this year, do you think holding parents responsible could curb mass shootings?
  14. Governor Walz, previously you opposed an assault weapons ban, why did you change your position?
  15. Senator Vance, how will you solve the childcare shortage, and do you support a national paid leave program?
  16. Governor Walz, do you think Congress will agree to your childcare tax credit proposals?
  17. Senator Vance, can you clarify how the President's tax policy will solve the childcare shortage?
  18. Senator Vance, will you seek to challenge this year's election results if every Governor certifies them?

 

It then further summarized that list into 10 specific topics:

Topics of the Debate:

  1. Middle East Policy and Military Action
  2. Climate Change
  3. Immigration Policy
  4. Child Welfare and Safety
  5. Economic Plans and Deficits
  6. Personal Credentials and Past Statements
  7. Abortion Rights
  8. Gun Control and Violence
  9. Childcare and Family Policies
  10. Election Integrity and Democracy
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– Gizortnik 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Awesome, thank you.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0
  • Trump will create a 20% sales tax (they're pretending tarrifs = sales tax)
  • What does Harris' Economy of Opportunity mean
  • Trump got rid of Roe v. Wade
  • Will Trump create a federal pregnancy monitoring board
  • Gun Control
  • Tim Waltz gaffe regarding Tiananmen Square
  • JD Vance said anti-Trump things
  • Climate Change
  • What does Waltz think of a mandatory maternity leave (this shit took forever)
  • What does Vance think of a mandatory maternity leave
  • How exactly would Deportations work
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– 8BitArchitect 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

20% sales tax

I'll take it over a comparable or higher income tax or property taxes.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The income tax was always unconstitutional, and property tax was always bullshit.

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– redman012 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The only two I even have enough effort to reply about are the tariffs and mandatory maternity leave.

With the tariffs, if businesses pass down the cost of the tariff by raising the prices of product, is there really a difference? I know there is, but that's 99% what's going to happen the moment that tariff would be enacted.

Mandatory maternity leave is pro-natal, and the only reason I can see people be against this is if they're against women in the workplace as a whole, which considering modern society I can completely understand, but that's a different, albeit related debate.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

With the tariffs, if businesses pass down the cost of the tariff by raising the prices of product, is there really a difference? I know there is, but that's 99% what's going to happen the moment that tariff would be enacted.

From the libertarian and minarchist stand-point, I understand the criticism. However, I would argue that Trump will probably mitigate the effect by loosening regulations so that it's simply easier to start a new business in the US, than to keep importing Communist subsidized goods from slave states.

For the maternity issue, it's just not an election topic. No one was talking about it. It seems to be a luxury belief issue. I don't know any company that doesn't allow maternity leave.

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... continue reading thread?
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– 0pressinator 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

They don't always lose. Sometimes it's a guy in a red tie that erodes gun rights and imports invaders and sends our sons to die in the sand and boosts other countries. Bushes and the Hollywood Actor "Spoke Based" but were total globohomo losers. Nixon began the custom of pouring manufacturing dollars into China's throat creating a world enshittified (And Ford was there by accident).

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– Gizortnik 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

When I say "our guy", I don't mean "spoke based".

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