The people who like to call people NAZI and the people who wish to be NAZI are similar in neither group actually know about NAZIs politically speaking.
Fascism is the practical application of Socialism.
National Socialism is the practical application of Race Communism.
The more the Leftist tries to make his ideals work, the more he becomes a Fascist or a National Socialist. This is because if he tries to hold to his raw principles (like Bolshevism or Anarcho-Communism) the either dies or immediately kills the guy standing next to him. His ideology is so blood-thirsty and psychotic that it can only work when he off-loads his blood-thirsty psychosis to the state to manage for him. Hence, why it is practical.
Fascism is the practical application of Socialism.
I'm not a fascist myself (actually a bit of a lolbertarian, insert laughter here), but that's a massive oversimplification. You people love to say fascism is socialism is leftism, to try to discredit people you call Nazis. Ironically, a leftist tactic itself. Your argument is literally the leftist argument of calling anyone a Nazi, but you just extrapolate to then say that all Nazis are leftists, because that's a more damaging attack to the targets you use it on.
I could go into detail how fascism isn't (always) socialism or leftism, but that isn't really the point. I started to, but then deleted it. Point is, your argument amounts to calling people you disagree with leftists, while passing through Nazism first, as mentioned above. It doesn't really matter if fascism is socialism or not; it's a disingenuous attack, unless used against people who explicitly wear the Nazi label. And even then, you have to back it up a bit, or you're just calling people leftists, just like the left calls everyone Nazis.
Being pro-white does not mean you're a Nazi, and being Nazi does not mean you're a leftist.
Being pro-white, as a white person, is good. That has nothing to do with Nazism, socialism, or leftism.
I'm white. I like white people. More importantly, I stand by the right to say that, from a freedom perspective. I'm not a Nazi. I'm not a socialist. I'm not a leftist. I am pro-white, though.
Fascism is Socialism explicitly, by it's own terminology. It just happens to be a very specific variant of Socialism which can be summarized to: Italian State Syndicalism.
Fascism is Socialism. There is no mechanism which allows it to not be Socialism. It literally can't be anything else. You can claim that "calling people you disagree with leftists" is simply not part of it. I disagree with Monarchism, but I've never called a Monarchist a Leftist, because Monarchism is not part of Leftism. Fascism is Leftism because it is Leftism. Disagreeing with me is irrelevant. Communism, Socialism, Fabian Socialism, Democratic Socialism, Social Democracy, Progressivism, Fascism, National Socialism, Anarcho-Syndicalism, Titoism, Maoism, Marxism, Marxist-Leninism, are all Leftist ideologies due to them ideologically stemming from Rousseau.
Furthermore, I'm not going to call National Socialists Fascists, because Fascism and National Socialism are distinct enough to be clearly separate ideologies. No aspect of Fascism is intertwined with Aryanism. In fact, Fascism is structured as a kind of Civic Nationalism, which is why Mussolini never targeted jews as a bourgouis race, at until the National Socialists controlled what was left of government.
Being pro-white does not mean your a NatSoc. Being a NatSoc makes you unequivocally a Leftist.
The problem with American National Socialism is that it frames itself as the sole legitimate defenders of white people. The same way every Leftist ideology claims authority over it's asserted protected group. Like all other Leftist ideologies, they are liars who are guaranteed to harm that protected group more than anyone else.
Fascism is Socialism explicitly...Fascism is Socialism....Furthermore, I'm not going to call National Socialists Fascists, because Fascism and National Socialism are distinct enough to be clearly separate ideologies.
Yes, I get that you're saying fascism is socialism, but socialism isn't necessarily fascism...but still. I still think the whole thing is a bit convoluted just to call people you disagree with Bad.
The people you keep calling fascists/socialists/leftists are people you're accusing of being national socialists. You continually call people Nazis, and then call them fascists and leftists.
You're pouring out a lot of Evocative and Capitalized words to try to send a message, but it's not consistent.
Fascism is structured as a kind of Civic Nationalism, which is why Mussolini never targeted jews as a bourgouis race, at until the National Socialists controlled what was left of government.
But...fascism is leftist is socialism, as you've said. So...civic nationalism is leftism? But ethnic nationalism is fascism/Nazism, which is also leftism?
You never answered how you can be pro-white without being a leftist according to you, and this just deepens the question. Can you even be a plain old nationalist without being a leftist, in your eyes?
If I can't advocate for my own people without being a leftist socialist...is there a way I can at least advocate for my nation without being a leftist socialist, or...? Again, do we just lay down and die, else be labeled leftists?
The problem with American National Socialism is that it frames itself as the sole legitimate defenders of white people.
Ahhhh. Clever. Ish.
You did it again. You flipped them. You're the one who keeps calling anyone pro-white a socialist, but then say that the issue isn't being pro-white, but the socialism. But you're the only one talking about socialism. No one else is. You're reading that into any vaguely pro-white sentiment. For whatever reason.
Very few people here are actual National Socialists. And yet you seem to think like half the board is, and that's simply and categorically not true.
The people who like to call people NAZI and the people who wish to be NAZI are similar in neither group actually know about NAZIs politically speaking.
Fascism is the practical application of Socialism.
National Socialism is the practical application of Race Communism.
The more the Leftist tries to make his ideals work, the more he becomes a Fascist or a National Socialist. This is because if he tries to hold to his raw principles (like Bolshevism or Anarcho-Communism) the either dies or immediately kills the guy standing next to him. His ideology is so blood-thirsty and psychotic that it can only work when he off-loads his blood-thirsty psychosis to the state to manage for him. Hence, why it is practical.
I'm not a fascist myself (actually a bit of a lolbertarian, insert laughter here), but that's a massive oversimplification. You people love to say fascism is socialism is leftism, to try to discredit people you call Nazis. Ironically, a leftist tactic itself. Your argument is literally the leftist argument of calling anyone a Nazi, but you just extrapolate to then say that all Nazis are leftists, because that's a more damaging attack to the targets you use it on.
I could go into detail how fascism isn't (always) socialism or leftism, but that isn't really the point. I started to, but then deleted it. Point is, your argument amounts to calling people you disagree with leftists, while passing through Nazism first, as mentioned above. It doesn't really matter if fascism is socialism or not; it's a disingenuous attack, unless used against people who explicitly wear the Nazi label. And even then, you have to back it up a bit, or you're just calling people leftists, just like the left calls everyone Nazis.
Being pro-white does not mean you're a Nazi, and being Nazi does not mean you're a leftist.
Being pro-white, as a white person, is good. That has nothing to do with Nazism, socialism, or leftism.
I'm white. I like white people. More importantly, I stand by the right to say that, from a freedom perspective. I'm not a Nazi. I'm not a socialist. I'm not a leftist. I am pro-white, though.
Fascism is Socialism explicitly, by it's own terminology. It just happens to be a very specific variant of Socialism which can be summarized to: Italian State Syndicalism.
Fascism is Socialism. There is no mechanism which allows it to not be Socialism. It literally can't be anything else. You can claim that "calling people you disagree with leftists" is simply not part of it. I disagree with Monarchism, but I've never called a Monarchist a Leftist, because Monarchism is not part of Leftism. Fascism is Leftism because it is Leftism. Disagreeing with me is irrelevant. Communism, Socialism, Fabian Socialism, Democratic Socialism, Social Democracy, Progressivism, Fascism, National Socialism, Anarcho-Syndicalism, Titoism, Maoism, Marxism, Marxist-Leninism, are all Leftist ideologies due to them ideologically stemming from Rousseau.
Furthermore, I'm not going to call National Socialists Fascists, because Fascism and National Socialism are distinct enough to be clearly separate ideologies. No aspect of Fascism is intertwined with Aryanism. In fact, Fascism is structured as a kind of Civic Nationalism, which is why Mussolini never targeted jews as a bourgouis race, at until the National Socialists controlled what was left of government.
Being pro-white does not mean your a NatSoc. Being a NatSoc makes you unequivocally a Leftist.
The problem with American National Socialism is that it frames itself as the sole legitimate defenders of white people. The same way every Leftist ideology claims authority over it's asserted protected group. Like all other Leftist ideologies, they are liars who are guaranteed to harm that protected group more than anyone else.
Yes, I get that you're saying fascism is socialism, but socialism isn't necessarily fascism...but still. I still think the whole thing is a bit convoluted just to call people you disagree with Bad.
The people you keep calling fascists/socialists/leftists are people you're accusing of being national socialists. You continually call people Nazis, and then call them fascists and leftists.
You're pouring out a lot of Evocative and Capitalized words to try to send a message, but it's not consistent.
But...fascism is leftist is socialism, as you've said. So...civic nationalism is leftism? But ethnic nationalism is fascism/Nazism, which is also leftism?
You never answered how you can be pro-white without being a leftist according to you, and this just deepens the question. Can you even be a plain old nationalist without being a leftist, in your eyes?
If I can't advocate for my own people without being a leftist socialist...is there a way I can at least advocate for my nation without being a leftist socialist, or...? Again, do we just lay down and die, else be labeled leftists?
Ahhhh. Clever. Ish.
You did it again. You flipped them. You're the one who keeps calling anyone pro-white a socialist, but then say that the issue isn't being pro-white, but the socialism. But you're the only one talking about socialism. No one else is. You're reading that into any vaguely pro-white sentiment. For whatever reason.
Very few people here are actual National Socialists. And yet you seem to think like half the board is, and that's simply and categorically not true.