I had to come in at the worst time, when Kackles was attacking Trump over how he killed the border security bill and how people are always supposedly leaving his rallies early. He could have pointed out how said bill was loaded with more money-wasting pork, wasn't actually going to secure the border and was more about increasing the flow of illegal aliens into the country, AND how a bill shouldn't have ever been fucking necessary in the first place and that the Biden Administration spent all its time actively impeding all attempts to secure the border. Instead, he wasted all his time on the jab about his rallies and bragged about how big they were compared to hers. Really annoyed me how he fell into such an obvious trap on a subject that should have been a slam dunk for him, even with the moderators poised against him.

The debate just didn't improve from there. This should have been a massive humiliation for Kackles, but I don't think it's going to change any minds.