It looks bad, no matter how one frames it. Youtubers need to do a bit more due diligence before accepting money from these orgs... who founded the company? are they real people? what's the company's history?... cause it's a matter of reputation. Leftists don't care about reputation, they'll happily take CCP money and if you point that out, they'll just accuse you of 'bigotry'... but it's not about leftists here, it's about one own's credibility.
I also have a strong suspicion that the DOJ could have stopped that charade very early, but they didn't, probably to make the contributors look worse since they are the opposition...
I'm glad more people are taking this view because it's been fucking silly how butthurt others have been getting over it. They're digging in trying to cry persecution but at the end of the day the more details come out the more they're looking like greedy fucks who took the money without ever questioning it.
I believe Lauren and Liam were sincere and truthful to their knowledge with me throughout. If someone did deceive them, I do not know who this person is or what this person’s purposes are, but it is my belief that Lauren and Liam did not approach me with malicious intent to deceive me or give me false information.
At best, they're going to be using "I was an idiot and got tricked/I had absolute no knowledge they were agents" as their legal defence, which will likely work because it does seem even the people going after them are taking that view generally so they've got that going for them. It's still an incredibly bad look for them though as you're pointing out from a professional reputation perspective.
You spend like half your time complaining that you're going to have to flee your country because you think your government will lock you up for having the wrong opinions.
But then, when asked repeatedly, you say you'll believe the government that hates you and people with bad opinions, and you'll condemn even people you like that the government has already said they hate...if the government puts the accusation on the right letterhead, essentially. 'Well, it's offficiial!' You've also said it's a smear and an attack but, again, because it's official those guys are all 'greedy grifter fuck larpers.' You've also said that, even when it's official, if it's political, it's more likely to be bullshit. And yet you still say you believe the government, while also calling them corrupt.
You've lost all credibility on this. And you love to feel prosecuted; this has nothing to do with who you are...your opinion is just utter shit on this topic. I'd call out anyone spouting this, regardless of username. This has nothing to do with you.
you say you'll believe the government that hates you and people with bad opinions, and you'll condemn even people you like that the government has already said they hate
I have not written that, you have and you deliberately misinterpret my posts on the topic, you guys are having an absolute sperg session over these guys which is why I'm not backing down.
Your reading comprehension for whatever reason on this particular topic Kienan is fucking awful.
You spend like half your time complaining that you're going to have to flee your country because you think your government will lock you up for having the wrong opinions.
Yes for having the wrong opinions, I don't take huge sums of money from suspicious sources that I can't verify, why the fuck are you trying to conflate two different issues? In fact three different issues because their larping is a whole other matter. I can condemn them for being retards and taking money from suspicious sources but also condemn the DOJ for politically motivated prosecutions, there is no contradiction there.
I have not written that, you have and you deliberately misinterpret my posts on the topic, you guys are having an absolute sperg session...Your reading comprehension...is fucking awful.
You have said that, and you stood by it. Also, you keep accusing me and other s of "misinterpreting" you when we're just repeating back what you're saying.
Yes for having the wrong opinions, I don't take huge sums of money from suspicious sources that I can't verify, why the fuck are you trying to conflate two different issues?
Because, and I'm not sure how many times I have to repeat this...they're not two different issues?!
So you can't trust the government not to lock you up because they dislike you...but you can trust the government to lock you up if they dislike you...and say you took money you shouldn't have. Okay, smart. Great. If they give a good enough reason to lock up the people who oppose them, it's all on the up and up. You'll cry "misinterpretation" again, but that's what you're saying. And you've said you'll believe government accusations, even if they're also reputational smears, if it's official.
And, again, this is all about an investor of a "boss" of a company you license some of your product to, and it's not "huge sums of money," it's pretty standard.
You're sperging again, stop it
Again...bruh.
You keep telling me that. I've never said that to you, even when you clearly are. Chill.
It looks bad, no matter how one frames it. Youtubers need to do a bit more due diligence before accepting money from these orgs... who founded the company? are they real people? what's the company's history?... cause it's a matter of reputation. Leftists don't care about reputation, they'll happily take CCP money and if you point that out, they'll just accuse you of 'bigotry'... but it's not about leftists here, it's about one own's credibility.
I also have a strong suspicion that the DOJ could have stopped that charade very early, but they didn't, probably to make the contributors look worse since they are the opposition...
I'm glad more people are taking this view because it's been fucking silly how butthurt others have been getting over it. They're digging in trying to cry persecution but at the end of the day the more details come out the more they're looking like greedy fucks who took the money without ever questioning it.
At best, they're going to be using "I was an idiot and got tricked/I had absolute no knowledge they were agents" as their legal defence, which will likely work because it does seem even the people going after them are taking that view generally so they've got that going for them. It's still an incredibly bad look for them though as you're pointing out from a professional reputation perspective.
ib4 mass downvotes.
Bruh.
You spend like half your time complaining that you're going to have to flee your country because you think your government will lock you up for having the wrong opinions.
But then, when asked repeatedly, you say you'll believe the government that hates you and people with bad opinions, and you'll condemn even people you like that the government has already said they hate...if the government puts the accusation on the right letterhead, essentially. 'Well, it's offficiial!' You've also said it's a smear and an attack but, again, because it's official those guys are all 'greedy grifter fuck larpers.' You've also said that, even when it's official, if it's political, it's more likely to be bullshit. And yet you still say you believe the government, while also calling them corrupt.
You've lost all credibility on this. And you love to feel prosecuted; this has nothing to do with who you are...your opinion is just utter shit on this topic. I'd call out anyone spouting this, regardless of username. This has nothing to do with you.
I have not written that, you have and you deliberately misinterpret my posts on the topic, you guys are having an absolute sperg session over these guys which is why I'm not backing down.
Your reading comprehension for whatever reason on this particular topic Kienan is fucking awful.
Yes for having the wrong opinions, I don't take huge sums of money from suspicious sources that I can't verify, why the fuck are you trying to conflate two different issues? In fact three different issues because their larping is a whole other matter. I can condemn them for being retards and taking money from suspicious sources but also condemn the DOJ for politically motivated prosecutions, there is no contradiction there.
You're sperging again, stop it
You have said that, and you stood by it. Also, you keep accusing me and other s of "misinterpreting" you when we're just repeating back what you're saying.
Because, and I'm not sure how many times I have to repeat this...they're not two different issues?!
So you can't trust the government not to lock you up because they dislike you...but you can trust the government to lock you up if they dislike you...and say you took money you shouldn't have. Okay, smart. Great. If they give a good enough reason to lock up the people who oppose them, it's all on the up and up. You'll cry "misinterpretation" again, but that's what you're saying. And you've said you'll believe government accusations, even if they're also reputational smears, if it's official.
And, again, this is all about an investor of a "boss" of a company you license some of your product to, and it's not "huge sums of money," it's pretty standard.
Again...bruh.
You keep telling me that. I've never said that to you, even when you clearly are. Chill.