You keep saying how this is a government trap...but then blaming the victims. Weird as fuck.

No, I'm not, that's your misrepresentation yet again

You, about the government, from various comments:

Yes the DOJ is corrupt and they are always lying pieces of shit...Do I think it's a trap? Yes it absolutely could be...I absolutely believe this is politically motivated...they've been targeted by the DOJ...I don't support what the DOJ are doing...

I do not agree with what the DOJ is doing at all, I think it's ridiculous...

...Yes, it was a reputation smear, people are right about that as well

You, about the victims, from various comments:

I don't trust the majority of them as far as I can throw them...the whole thing stinks to high heaven for me...grifters are going to grift...I'm just pointing out the legality and shadiness of it all...they're not going to come out of this looking good...foreign nature of the organisation...it's not going to be a good look for them if they're getting taken down...they are looking incredibly dumb for taking that money and not doing due diligence...I promise you that none of them are going to come out of this looking good...it's easy to see they got duped at best which doesn't make them look good in this situation even if they weren't malicious....they are not looking good if they got greedy and took money under the table for videos...

...the idea that just because of a technicality where they were never directly asked about their opinions or told to change anything doesn't mean it's not shady as fuck.

...I don't think any reasonable person can deny unless they're being a fanboi or extremely tribal that they didn't set themselves up here.

I am not a fan of larpers on either side of the aisle who fake what they are and deceive their audience.

...you make sure you don't give the feds an excuse.

...youtubers get caught doing this all the fucking time, it's very common, more common than people might think. From the detail I'm getting they're not going to be coming out of this looking good because at best they did not do their due diligence on the money they were receiving.

...grifters who larp as dissidents that are quietly taking money from a foreign government on the side to push certain types of videos.

They're not going to come out of this looking good if it turns out they did take money in any capacity from a government source. If they took money from a government source of any kind, they're not independent at all.

...they took money from glowies and got greedy.

...this is less to do with the DOJ supposedly entrapping them with a fake honeypot for me, it's more to do with the fact that they agreed to such a shady deal in the first place.

...if they were able to nab them on something it likely means that their financials are not exactly above board unless the whole thing turns out to be completely bogus which is something I find unlikely.

...You don't spend that level of resources on a wild goose chase just to send a message because it would make them look ludicrous even to leftists who would get extremely squeamish themselves over it. Do I think they've done anything malicious? No probably not, however I do think they've probably been morons.

...youtubers have also shown they're greedy fucks who will chase multiple pay checks even if it means doing a complete larp for their audience. As far as I'm concerned, if you're a youtuber that turns out to be a glowie or a glowie asset and you get caught out lying to your audience I to cover up the fact that you're with glowies I don't want to know you.

Even if the DOJ can't hit them with anything, I suspect nobody is going to come out looking good from this and that's probably exactly what was intended.

So...it's a setup by the DOJ, but they're guilty.

A bunch of outright attacks, and 'where there's smoke, there's fire' reasoning. When, again, there's smoke because well known enemy entities are saying there's smoke.

Where's the misrepresentation? You say the government is out to get them...but blame the people who are getting got by the government. I'd say that's a fair characterization, no?

You also keep accusing people of defending glowie ops, when that's what you're doing...

You've referenced Tencent before, that's like claiming that Tencent isn't foreign because they've set up some kind of technically western branch and they're owned by a citizen. No idea why this site has such blinders on in this particular case.

Tencent is a Chinese company. Tenet Media is an American company, by Americans, and friends of the commentators. Again, totally different scenario. Also, anyone taking Tencent money is in the know, for better or worse. Working for Tenet has no assumed foreign connection.

Also, the whole 'foreign' thing is a total dodge, when we have our own government and corporations spending so much more. This is like the $100,000 on Facebook ads "Russian collusion" all over again. Even if it were true, it gets nowhere near the level of what Zuckerborg was doing, or the illegal influence the government does, or the lawfare against candidates and election integrity.

Basically, even if true (which it's not), don't care. Once again, even if the allegations are totally correct...the Russians didn't accomplish any influence here.

People don't just randomly hand out large wads of cash for people to keep doing what they're doing, that's not how businesses work which is why the whole thing stinks to high heaven for me

Again, you're ignoring what everyone is saying. It wasn't for doing nothing, it was for doing the exact same thing they were doing, but at a new company. Tenet was building their brand on big names like Tim Pool; that's where the value is. They were paying for his audience, not to change his content, and certainly not for nothing.

No you fuckers are

LOL.

Look, let me break it down. You're accusing people of "defending" and "fanboying" for the creators.

I don't think there's even anything to defend against. The allegations are bullshit, because they're from extremely unreliable sources, in an obviously coordinated attack.

Also, I'm going to ask for the third or fourth time, try not to dodge again.

In a hypothetical situation, where the UK government, known to be hostile to groups like the Lotus Eaters, releases an indictment saying Lotus Eaters unknowingly took money from Russian citizens; the BBC, also known to be hostile to them, runs with it and exaggerates the already flimsy government claims to make them out to be traitors; and bot farms attack the Lotus Eaters online on their various locations...do you condemn the Lotus Eaters?

What if it's Dankula, and Scotland goes after him (again)? Do you condemn Dank?

Because that's what you're doing here.