Because clearly they have nothing better to do with their time. When I was in the Air Force I never thought military times or Air Force times would turn into partisan publications. Slavery and land conquest is as old as time. Doesn’t excuse any atrocities but it happened. Native Americans committed atrocities along with everyone else. There is a clip from the Wounded Knee movie where Col. Miles and Sitting Bull are talking and Col Miles points out the tribes that his tribe slaughtered to take the land they were on.
I’m so tired of this constant hand wringing over things that every other country did on some level. Shaka Zulu was essentially terrorizing and “colonizing” the neighboring tribes, and if he would’ve had the resources of the British Empire you don’t think he would’ve expanded his reach as far as possible?
If only I could have a Stargate and settle on a new planet although no matter how strict my rules are to start I would bet the civilization would eventually succumb to the usual stuff
Further to this, I'm sick of people trying to apply morality to soldiers.
We can debate the morality of volunteering to serve a corrupt country but, once you join, you lose agency and responsibility. That's the point of soldiers.
If they want to go after the commander for allowing atrocities, fine. Or the general whose plan created the battle, or the politicians who created the situation, or the people who wanted the land. But the soldiers were risking their lives to do their jobs and should be recognized for doing so.
You have just summarized the distinction between jus ad bellum and jus in bello from Just War Theory, which I would hope every military officer in the world understands.
...just war theory offers a series of principles that aim to retain a plausible moral framework for war. From the just war (justum bellum) tradition, theorists distinguish between the rules that govern the justice of war (jus ad bellum) from those that govern just and fair conduct in war (jus In bello) and the responsibility and accountability of warring parties after the war (jus post bellum).
Sadly I have observed many people do not make the distinction.
I like that scene on the HBO show because Sitting Bull called another indian chief a woman. Very sexist and transphobic, no?
The native shit always seems to undermind the liberal philosophy. They are determined to keep native land "autonomous." Up to them denying access to governors they don't like but want open borders to the US. They undermind and lie about Indian slavery, namely some tribes enslaved everyone, rapings, murders, and them joining the Confederacy.
Liberals have a very skewed vision of American history, a very Yankee view.
Oh yea he did call him a woman. How dare Sitting Bull say such a thing. I grew up in Oklahoma so we had a lot of Native American history. They mentioned Indians being in the confederacy but didn’t go into much depth on it. I vaguely remember hearing about blacks in the confederacy because I saw a black guy who was in the sons of the confederacy. Those two topics are hard to find on Google at least because the articles that come up are “debunking” articles but I’m not crazy, I remember learning those facts even if it was a brief mention.
history is full of a great many strange and inconvenient truths. one of my ancestors fought with their slaves to hold back shermans murderous march. 20+ African slaves armed with rifles and one single old white man leading them against the federals. happened at the old savannah bridge after the yanks took savannah and began marching to Bryan county. when they got there they poisoned the wells with bodies which killed young and old black and white alike for miles around. you could read about it in the book "from beautiful zion to red bird creek" which is a local history of Bryan county GA. local histories like this one are a great place to read first hand accounts which hold truths not found in mcgraw-hill indoctrination books.
I grew up in the North and not once have I ever heard of this. In fact, I’ve noticed how many key details are left out of the history books I was taught from
There is a clip from the Wounded Knee movie where Col. Miles and Sitting Bull are talking and Col Miles points out the tribes that his tribe slaughtered to take the land they were on.
I just saw that clip today. I'm not familiar with the battle, but Miles was making valid points. Leftists like to pretend that losing to Westerners makes you a victim, but plenty of them deserved what they got or worse.
Because clearly they have nothing better to do with their time. When I was in the Air Force I never thought military times or Air Force times would turn into partisan publications. Slavery and land conquest is as old as time. Doesn’t excuse any atrocities but it happened. Native Americans committed atrocities along with everyone else. There is a clip from the Wounded Knee movie where Col. Miles and Sitting Bull are talking and Col Miles points out the tribes that his tribe slaughtered to take the land they were on.
I’m so tired of this constant hand wringing over things that every other country did on some level. Shaka Zulu was essentially terrorizing and “colonizing” the neighboring tribes, and if he would’ve had the resources of the British Empire you don’t think he would’ve expanded his reach as far as possible?
If only I could have a Stargate and settle on a new planet although no matter how strict my rules are to start I would bet the civilization would eventually succumb to the usual stuff
Further to this, I'm sick of people trying to apply morality to soldiers.
We can debate the morality of volunteering to serve a corrupt country but, once you join, you lose agency and responsibility. That's the point of soldiers.
If they want to go after the commander for allowing atrocities, fine. Or the general whose plan created the battle, or the politicians who created the situation, or the people who wanted the land. But the soldiers were risking their lives to do their jobs and should be recognized for doing so.
You have just summarized the distinction between jus ad bellum and jus in bello from Just War Theory, which I would hope every military officer in the world understands.
Sadly I have observed many people do not make the distinction.
Agreed
I like that scene on the HBO show because Sitting Bull called another indian chief a woman. Very sexist and transphobic, no?
The native shit always seems to undermind the liberal philosophy. They are determined to keep native land "autonomous." Up to them denying access to governors they don't like but want open borders to the US. They undermind and lie about Indian slavery, namely some tribes enslaved everyone, rapings, murders, and them joining the Confederacy.
Liberals have a very skewed vision of American history, a very Yankee view.
Oh yea he did call him a woman. How dare Sitting Bull say such a thing. I grew up in Oklahoma so we had a lot of Native American history. They mentioned Indians being in the confederacy but didn’t go into much depth on it. I vaguely remember hearing about blacks in the confederacy because I saw a black guy who was in the sons of the confederacy. Those two topics are hard to find on Google at least because the articles that come up are “debunking” articles but I’m not crazy, I remember learning those facts even if it was a brief mention.
history is full of a great many strange and inconvenient truths. one of my ancestors fought with their slaves to hold back shermans murderous march. 20+ African slaves armed with rifles and one single old white man leading them against the federals. happened at the old savannah bridge after the yanks took savannah and began marching to Bryan county. when they got there they poisoned the wells with bodies which killed young and old black and white alike for miles around. you could read about it in the book "from beautiful zion to red bird creek" which is a local history of Bryan county GA. local histories like this one are a great place to read first hand accounts which hold truths not found in mcgraw-hill indoctrination books.
I grew up in the North and not once have I ever heard of this. In fact, I’ve noticed how many key details are left out of the history books I was taught from
Interesting. I know stories like this exist across the south but you wouldn’t find them in any modern history book
You should read the histories of the Maori. Half the tribes disappeared as soon as proper guns were introduced. That's 150 years ago.
I’ve been watching a New Zealand show called Brokenwood. It’s a murder mystery show but it’s made me want to do a deep dive into Māori history.
Maori are awesome. Of the Polynesians, I consider them the most authentically friendly.
https://youtu.be/5kwIkF6LFDc?si=ZoW6Xn15iWkMp4ON
This should be a good start.
People always assume native Hawaiians are nice, but they don’t realize how many bodies Hawaiians stacked before we conquered them
I just saw that clip today. I'm not familiar with the battle, but Miles was making valid points. Leftists like to pretend that losing to Westerners makes you a victim, but plenty of them deserved what they got or worse.