This might actually have MORE message services leaving. We know a lot of them hold data for feds and spooks but if they stay in the market and the EU does this change, it'll be open admission their services aren't private or secure and you'll see some no longer use the services even in another country.
In Signal's case I think this is just virtue signalling. Considering they require a phone number to register I don't think they're offended by the privacy implications. They're probably just in bed with the Feds and not EU spooks and see a low cost marketing opportunity.
I'll just take this opportunity to recommend SimpleX to anyone interested in a privacy app that's the real deal. They don't require any personal information to use and you don't need to use their servers to transmit messages at all.
Governments consider the Internet (and ultimately what they truly want, a national/EU Intranet) to be a public place, including privately run websites and apps - no expectation of privacy and everything including your identity can be seen or heard by anyone else on request. As we've seen with age and ID verification, that is also a push toward implementing real world laws into cyber space. Things like public order law, sexual harassment law and the banning of causing offence.
The EU (and the UK) won't care if Signal leaves, if anything, that's what they want. Then they can curate their own internal network with their own services that they fully control just like China to "protect the children".
Well, they are under a deadline, in which the old version of this law (which were on a company volunteer basis) will expire soon. They are supposed to setup a new government body to handle all of this scanning. And of course the politicians has said that this will not prevent your privacy.
I still think that they will later settle for giving licensees for different orgs to be allowed to use encryption without the scanning.
The US gov wants to do the same thing don't kid yourself. And the EU establishing this precedent will compromise all the mainstream "private" messaging apps, which will then allow fuckery with Interpol, who will pass along info to our spooks. Before you know it "American" tech companies will simply adopt these policies for all countries, just like they adopted the EU's policies on "hate speech" for their content moderation.
Eventually there will also be a push for US/state level internal networks and restrictions on Internet access "for your children's safety". The concept of splinternets seems to be growing traction and not just in authoritarian countries like North Korea, Iran and Cuba.
Oddly, they never do anything to punish child abuse.
This might actually have MORE message services leaving. We know a lot of them hold data for feds and spooks but if they stay in the market and the EU does this change, it'll be open admission their services aren't private or secure and you'll see some no longer use the services even in another country.
In Signal's case I think this is just virtue signalling. Considering they require a phone number to register I don't think they're offended by the privacy implications. They're probably just in bed with the Feds and not EU spooks and see a low cost marketing opportunity.
I'll just take this opportunity to recommend SimpleX to anyone interested in a privacy app that's the real deal. They don't require any personal information to use and you don't need to use their servers to transmit messages at all.
They're all pedophiles and they're all projecting.
You'll see in the coming year-ish.
I can't wait for the autists in the open source community to by pass this.
Good for them, I guess but still a hard "no".
all those people that were clients of epstein.. hmmm none of them were brought to jsutice.
And since the article is talking about France - Roman Polanski. Never prosecuted nor extradited for child rape…
yep. they are not doing anything about elite pedo circles or "asian" pedo gangs.
Governments consider the Internet (and ultimately what they truly want, a national/EU Intranet) to be a public place, including privately run websites and apps - no expectation of privacy and everything including your identity can be seen or heard by anyone else on request. As we've seen with age and ID verification, that is also a push toward implementing real world laws into cyber space. Things like public order law, sexual harassment law and the banning of causing offence.
The EU (and the UK) won't care if Signal leaves, if anything, that's what they want. Then they can curate their own internal network with their own services that they fully control just like China to "protect the children".
Well, they are under a deadline, in which the old version of this law (which were on a company volunteer basis) will expire soon. They are supposed to setup a new government body to handle all of this scanning. And of course the politicians has said that this will not prevent your privacy.
I still think that they will later settle for giving licensees for different orgs to be allowed to use encryption without the scanning.
Never heard of signal, is this even anything that matters or is it a nothing burger?
https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/what-is-signal-everything-you-need-to-know-about-elon-musks-app-recommendation/
That will only happen if the elites have their own messaging service which isnt surveiled.
The US government should be 100% supporting US corporations against these stasi.
Cut the EU off from the internet and withdraw from NATO.
The EU will be a caliphate within a decade anyway. it’s like arming Iran at this point.
The US gov wants to do the same thing don't kid yourself. And the EU establishing this precedent will compromise all the mainstream "private" messaging apps, which will then allow fuckery with Interpol, who will pass along info to our spooks. Before you know it "American" tech companies will simply adopt these policies for all countries, just like they adopted the EU's policies on "hate speech" for their content moderation.
Eventually there will also be a push for US/state level internal networks and restrictions on Internet access "for your children's safety". The concept of splinternets seems to be growing traction and not just in authoritarian countries like North Korea, Iran and Cuba.