Limp Liberal though he is, this is the time when Lindsey and his passion for detailing and cataloguing this sort of thing comes in handy, as do the comments telling him how and where he is wrong: https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-bodies/ ,like with a lot of things, it seems to have been popularised if not coined by Foucault. The comments have some other potential sources and if I had the time we could dive into the etymology of this one, but 'from shitty lefty pedo pomo french philosophers' is close enough for our purposes and I don't fancy subjecting myself to their evil words to dig at where he might have gotten it from. because I have another hunch:
Ultimately, I think the comments are still wrong and that this particular rhetorical turd comes from what may be one of the deepest and long raging religious and philosophical divides, the Platonic dualists vs the Aristotelian hylomorphic view. All their shit tends to be able to go back to Plato in unexpected ways.
The dualism stuff crops up particularly in the trans stuff. It makes absolutely 0 sense from a more hylomorphic view in which your body and soul are fundamentally one in order to be alive and for you to be you (essentially, it's hard to explain). But in this view it's utter gibberish. But in a dualist view where they are separate, and indeed separable? Being a 'x soul in a y body', assuming some kind of amoral or corrupt or mistaken deity (whether that be a demiurge or uncaring mother nature deity or fate), it makes complete sense.
"the body is the prison of the soul" - plato
"the soul is the prison of the body" - Foucault (there is definitely a bit of an inversion and flip and focus more on the body as good rather than the soul with Foucault)
Limp Liberal though he is, this is the time when Lindsey and his passion for detailing and cataloguing this sort of thing comes in handy, as do the comments telling him how and where he is wrong: https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-bodies/ ,like with a lot of things, it seems to have been popularised if not coined by Foucault. The comments have some other potential sources and if I had the time we could dive into the etymology of this one, but 'from shitty lefty pedo pomo french philosophers' is close enough for our purposes and I don't fancy subjecting myself to their evil words to dig at where he might have gotten it from. because I have another hunch:
Ultimately, I think the comments are still wrong and that this particular rhetorical turd comes from what may be one of the deepest and long raging religious and philosophical divides, the Platonic dualists vs the Aristotelian hylomorphic view. All their shit tends to be able to go back to Plato in unexpected ways.
The dualism stuff crops up particularly in the trans stuff. It makes absolutely 0 sense from a more hylomorphic view in which your body and soul are fundamentally one in order to be alive and for you to be you (essentially, it's hard to explain). But in this view it's utter gibberish. But in a dualist view where they are separate, and indeed separable? Being a 'x soul in a y body', assuming some kind of amoral or corrupt or mistaken deity (whether that be a demiurge or uncaring mother nature deity or fate), it makes complete sense.
"the body is the prison of the soul" - plato "the soul is the prison of the body" - Foucault (there is definitely a bit of an inversion and flip and focus more on the body as good rather than the soul with Foucault)
The left has long had some wacky ideas about the two being separate, and also a prison from which they wish to escape. Transgenderism is a result and manifestation of this, and you'll note that 'queer bodies' is essentially the 2nd most popular after black (tied with 'brown bodies'), when you consider the underlying baseline amount due to scientists discussing black body radiation and a few other topics: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=queer+bodies%2Cbrown+bodies%2Cblack+bodies%2C+black+and+brown+bodies%2C+&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3
This is not a co-incidence or random quirk, it is linked to the way they view the world in fundamental ways.
This is good stuff. Haven't had the time to read the links.