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This seems like a very weird way to either a) avoid the current trend of forced artefact handbacks and Just Stop Oil attacks, or (and being Berlin, this is much more likely) b) to do handbacks by stealth, and then to "Surprise" the public in fourteen years that there is nothing left when it reopens. (archive.is)
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– bamboozler1 [S] 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Here's the "official" line:

https://archive.is/1lvkA

I note that Stockholm has done the same thing with their Medieval Museum, although that one is and even more political decision, and may be permanently closed.

I've been to the Pergamon Museum. It was extremely impressive, and the Ishtar Gate is one of the coolest exhibits I have ever seen. To close it, for fourteen years, is completely absurd, and, whatever the real political reasons behind it, could probably only happen in a city that took nearly a decade to open its white elephant new airport, lol...

Fourteen years. Longer than it takes the Emiratis to build entire, full-scale museums, and China to build entire ghost cities...

Absolutely absurd. But very "on brand" for Berlin, to say the least.

Even Paris isn't this bad with things like this, lol. Istanbul is, but at least with Turkey we know it's blatant corruption, lol. The Germans are just better at "cloaking" it.

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– Lurker404 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Hm, is archive down? .is hasn't worked for me in a while but .ph and .today aren't working either.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It makes me complete a Captcha to get through to it, but beyond that, seems to work fine for me!

Or at least it did when I put these articles through it, anyway…

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

14 years???? Yeah maybe for rebuilding Notre Dame to its former glory lol, not upgrading walls around exhibits

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– yeldarb1983 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

depending on the age of the building/s, it's possible there's structural wear that needs to be addressed, given that most buildings arent really made to last as long as they used to.

Not an expert or anything, just trying to steelman a little bit.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Steelman - ha.

But yeah, you're not wrong. It's the 14 years that I find unacceptable. I can come at four. But there is literally no reason I can see to close half the museum for 14 years.

It's Berlin. They could literally build two brand new Pergamon museums on Tempelhofer Feld or any of the other empty spaces in that city, in that time...

Or even just shove the artefacts into the largely empty City Palace/Humboldt Forum, on the same island...

So it's mostly the timeframe, and what specifically is being locked away, that I find nefarious...

Paris got around this by opening the Grand Palais Ephemere (temporary) while the proper Grand Palais was being reno'd. Istanbul did much the same thing while they demolished (and sadly never rebuilt, even though they were supposed/promised to) Istanbul Modern.

Pergamon Museum could do something similar, but because they bizarrely don't seem to want the public to see the Ishtar Gate and other related artefacts for that 14 years, they're doing it this way, methinks...

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– yeldarb1983 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

good point, but let me share a bit of advice from my time working both for Wal-mart and a major cabinet making conglomerate; Never, ever underestimate a bureaucracy's ability to do things in as inefficient a way as possible, lmao.

...and don't ask me where this is coming from, because I haven't teased the info out of the back of my brainpan, but there's some snippet rattling around back there that makes me think the German people are about as naturally bureaucratic a race as exists on the planet.. I almost want to say they're pathologically against thinking for themselves or innovating... I'm probably wrong about this, but the thought wont go away.

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