Also reminder even by the fake jesuit story he was only in Japan for one year and then sold back in to slavery lmao
Also obligatory copypasta:
"The sole argument for the existence of Yasuke is the Jesuit chronicles of their missions to Japan. Which were filled with nonsense and aren't taken seriously by most Catholics. Several of them were bloating their accounts in hopes of a bishopric.
Nobunaga never mentioned him in his own writings. Which given that Nobunaga would write poems about pretty much anything he laid eyes on, suggests that the two never met. The sole corroborating account stated that one of the missionary priests had a black servant, and they presented him as a curiosity to Nobunaga's court, but there is evidence of nothing else.
Here's another strain on historical credulity. Supposedly Yasuke fought for Nobunaga as a samurai. One of the claims is that he spoke fluent Japanese.
The time period between when they supposedly met and when Nobunaga was assassinated by Akechi Mitsuhide was... three months.
A black guy from what would now be Morocco, probably a slave to the priests, and someone whose language skills would have included mostly broken Portuguese, supposedly learned the second most difficult language on earth in three months. For reference, Japanese has three goddamn formal alphabets.
There is nothing about the story that is historically credible. There is more evidence of Santa Claus than there is of Yasuke. Now if you want a Japanese historical figure that is actually interesting and actually real, I suggest Honda Tadakatsu. He's a real life Hercules."
Just makes me realize that simply having Nobunaga himself instead of a fake diversity replacement would’ve been 100x cooler and might’ve actually made me maybe consider buying a Ubisoft game
Let me add u/Telia's recent post to our collection of Yasukepastas. I just converted it to text from his image, so credit him if you like.
"First, I would like to talk about how Yasuke was treated in Japan. Yasuke's name does not appear in most history books, and for this reason he is treated as a fictitious entity that never existed.
He does not appear in history textbooks for elementary, junior high, and high school students, and only those who have studied history at universities have heard of him. Even in the few history books that mention his name, it only says that he "served as a peasant and carried baggage." Everything about him is a fiction. He was tall, muscular, and strong,and Nobunaga,suspicious of whether his skin was his own, had his men wipe it to make sure.
It is not even known if the Yasuke in the history books was a black Yasuke, because the name "Yasuke" is like John, a name that can be found anywhere in Japan! Also, Yasu came to Japan one year before Nobunaga died, Nobunaga had already almost unified Japan, how could he be a samurai without a war?
And even a 10 year old Japanese could tell that he was not a samurai, because he had no family name. When we Japanese introduce ourselves, we say our family name and then our first name. This is because until the Meiji period (1868-1912), when equality among the four peoples was introduced, ordinary people were not allowed to have family names. In fact, some ordinary people have become samurai or feudal lords, such as Hideyoshi Toyotomi, who achieved greatness after Nobunaga, who rose from a mere peasant Tokichirou with his intelligence and courage to finally become Hideyoshi Toyotomi.
And you foreigners often use the word "retainer", which is a mistranslation of the Japanese word "KASHIN". The original meaning of "KASHIN" is all those who work for the samurai family. A cook, a gardener, a maid, etc. are all KASHIN (retainers). In other words, those who support Yasuke are making a fuss based on a source of lies written by a black supremacist who cannot even read Japanese properly. Ridiculous.Yasuke was in the service of Nobunaga, so he fits the definition of KASHIN, and Samurai are KASHIN because they also serve Nobunaga, but that doesn't mean Yasuke is a Samurai! The reality is that Yasuke was like Nobunaga's pet or maid!"
it just keeps getting worse....
Also reminder even by the fake jesuit story he was only in Japan for one year and then sold back in to slavery lmao
Also obligatory copypasta:
"The sole argument for the existence of Yasuke is the Jesuit chronicles of their missions to Japan. Which were filled with nonsense and aren't taken seriously by most Catholics. Several of them were bloating their accounts in hopes of a bishopric.
Nobunaga never mentioned him in his own writings. Which given that Nobunaga would write poems about pretty much anything he laid eyes on, suggests that the two never met. The sole corroborating account stated that one of the missionary priests had a black servant, and they presented him as a curiosity to Nobunaga's court, but there is evidence of nothing else.
Here's another strain on historical credulity. Supposedly Yasuke fought for Nobunaga as a samurai. One of the claims is that he spoke fluent Japanese.
The time period between when they supposedly met and when Nobunaga was assassinated by Akechi Mitsuhide was... three months.
A black guy from what would now be Morocco, probably a slave to the priests, and someone whose language skills would have included mostly broken Portuguese, supposedly learned the second most difficult language on earth in three months. For reference, Japanese has three goddamn formal alphabets.
There is nothing about the story that is historically credible. There is more evidence of Santa Claus than there is of Yasuke. Now if you want a Japanese historical figure that is actually interesting and actually real, I suggest Honda Tadakatsu. He's a real life Hercules."
Just makes me realize that simply having Nobunaga himself instead of a fake diversity replacement would’ve been 100x cooler and might’ve actually made me maybe consider buying a Ubisoft game
For a Western game Nobunaga might be cooler, but if you've played 7 Japanese games ever you've played 5 with him in it already.
He is massively overrepresented in any Japanese media to a point of being incredibly cliche (especially if he is evil) and boring.
Let me add u/Telia's recent post to our collection of Yasukepastas. I just converted it to text from his image, so credit him if you like.
"First, I would like to talk about how Yasuke was treated in Japan. Yasuke's name does not appear in most history books, and for this reason he is treated as a fictitious entity that never existed.
He does not appear in history textbooks for elementary, junior high, and high school students, and only those who have studied history at universities have heard of him. Even in the few history books that mention his name, it only says that he "served as a peasant and carried baggage." Everything about him is a fiction. He was tall, muscular, and strong,and Nobunaga,suspicious of whether his skin was his own, had his men wipe it to make sure.
It is not even known if the Yasuke in the history books was a black Yasuke, because the name "Yasuke" is like John, a name that can be found anywhere in Japan! Also, Yasu came to Japan one year before Nobunaga died, Nobunaga had already almost unified Japan, how could he be a samurai without a war?
And even a 10 year old Japanese could tell that he was not a samurai, because he had no family name. When we Japanese introduce ourselves, we say our family name and then our first name. This is because until the Meiji period (1868-1912), when equality among the four peoples was introduced, ordinary people were not allowed to have family names. In fact, some ordinary people have become samurai or feudal lords, such as Hideyoshi Toyotomi, who achieved greatness after Nobunaga, who rose from a mere peasant Tokichirou with his intelligence and courage to finally become Hideyoshi Toyotomi.
And you foreigners often use the word "retainer", which is a mistranslation of the Japanese word "KASHIN". The original meaning of "KASHIN" is all those who work for the samurai family. A cook, a gardener, a maid, etc. are all KASHIN (retainers). In other words, those who support Yasuke are making a fuss based on a source of lies written by a black supremacist who cannot even read Japanese properly. Ridiculous. Yasuke was in the service of Nobunaga, so he fits the definition of KASHIN, and Samurai are KASHIN because they also serve Nobunaga, but that doesn't mean Yasuke is a Samurai! The reality is that Yasuke was like Nobunaga's pet or maid!"
There is more evidence of Rance from RanceQuest being in Japan as Nobunaga's samurai, than there is of Yasuke.