Christ is undeniably clear about the topic. Forgiveness requires genuine contrition. Continuance of the sin, furtherance of the sin, is not contrition.
That's why it's literally blasphemy to suggest that sexual deviants of any variety are forgiven. Without casting aside their wickedness they are irrevocably damned. They cast nothing aside, they wallow in it and specifically define themselves by it. Their so called marriages are blasphemous as well, a deliberate perversion of the union of man and woman designed and implemented by God.
Confession, penitence, contrition and forgiveness are strict in Catholicism for precisely that reason. For real Catholics anyway, not Bergoglio's cultists.
It's why, for example, Baptists are considered dire heretics among the faithful. Because they have perverted the act of penitence into something trite and trivial.
No arguments. I am surprised that so many people equate forgiveness with “freedoms from punishment or consequences” I go to a Lutheran church (my Catholic friends call me Catholic lite) but I do have Bible study with Catholics and listen to EWTN podcasts so I’m becoming more familiar with the different rites.
Very good, thus my point emerges. Whether they're forgiven or not by God, is God's business.
Our business is in offering them a chance to repent before we send them to Him. That's what forgiveness means from a temporal, human perspective. Offering someone a chance to be shriven before you cut off his head.
Once offered we can wash our hands of it. And I use that analogy deliberately. Christ didn't condemn Pilate to hell. Stark as it seems, it was his job.
Christ is undeniably clear about the topic. Forgiveness requires genuine contrition. Continuance of the sin, furtherance of the sin, is not contrition.
That's why it's literally blasphemy to suggest that sexual deviants of any variety are forgiven. Without casting aside their wickedness they are irrevocably damned. They cast nothing aside, they wallow in it and specifically define themselves by it. Their so called marriages are blasphemous as well, a deliberate perversion of the union of man and woman designed and implemented by God.
Confession, penitence, contrition and forgiveness are strict in Catholicism for precisely that reason. For real Catholics anyway, not Bergoglio's cultists.
It's why, for example, Baptists are considered dire heretics among the faithful. Because they have perverted the act of penitence into something trite and trivial.
No arguments. I am surprised that so many people equate forgiveness with “freedoms from punishment or consequences” I go to a Lutheran church (my Catholic friends call me Catholic lite) but I do have Bible study with Catholics and listen to EWTN podcasts so I’m becoming more familiar with the different rites.
Very good, thus my point emerges. Whether they're forgiven or not by God, is God's business.
Our business is in offering them a chance to repent before we send them to Him. That's what forgiveness means from a temporal, human perspective. Offering someone a chance to be shriven before you cut off his head.
Once offered we can wash our hands of it. And I use that analogy deliberately. Christ didn't condemn Pilate to hell. Stark as it seems, it was his job.
Isn't true contrition also the acceptance of appropriate punishment, even if that means life in prison or death?
Yes.