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NPR: Masturbation abstinence is popular online. Doctors and therapists are worried (archive.is)
posted 2 years ago by ExtraCharger 2 years ago by ExtraCharger +36 / -0
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– SoctaticMethod1 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Japanese extinction spiral is real

China is losing population at a faster rate than Japan it's just there's more of them so harder to notice. I think porn is a small factor sure but a bigger reason is their work/life balance which is notoriously bad.

You're talking to someone who wants the pirn industry that uses people to make content to die but the one using drawing and art to continue as an outlet. We've been drawing tits, dicks and vaginas FOR MILLENIA, from cavemen to the renaissance, the problem really got worse when we started introducing filmed and having it portrayed through social media that it's 'normal' to be a slut.

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– Assassin47 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

a bigger reason is their work/life balance which is notoriously bad

Japanese extinction starts with the hikikomori (shut in), young people, mostly men, who have already given up the battle before they had a chance to join. You could imagine they know about poor work/life balance and are afraid of joining the adult world, but I find that hard to believe when they don't have any personal experience with it yet. It may be more related to school problems, but I wouldn't be surprised if porn has removed the will to fight from some of those boys.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

China is losing population at a faster rate than Japan it's just there's more of them so harder to notice. I think porn is a small factor sure but a bigger reason is their work/life balance which is notoriously bad.

Perhaps an even bigger factor in China's case is the cataclysmic consequences of the one-child policy, which caused an enormous imbalance of men compared to women. The simpbux potential of a woman is potentially even greater in China than the US in terms of number of customers. There are designated streamer zones in parks filled with women just talking to their phones.

You're talking to someone who wants the pirn industry that uses people to make content to die but the one using drawing and art to continue as an outlet. We've been drawing tits, dicks and vaginas FOR MILLENIA, from cavemen to the renaissance, the problem really got worse when we started introducing filmed and having it portrayed through social media that it's 'normal' to be a slut.

Triangular Kim Possible tits on a cave wall is not a porn industry. Also sorry, you probably missed my edit:

The advent of advanced AI porn will hopefully destroy the thot industry, which would be fantastic. But at the same time, if 13-year old me had the ability to generate a personal sexual fantasy of whatever I wanted, including girls from my real life, upgrading their rack too - and that tech will be here - I don't know if I would've ever had much of an interest in reality.

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– SoctaticMethod1 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Yeah missed that edit, I'd say that's a deeper problem in the West with AI art in general that they don't have a good reality/fantasy distinction. We still have people saying that there's more than two genders and that third world cultures can integrate into a first world (barely nowadays) society.

Perhaps an even bigger factor in China's case is the cataclysmic consequences of the one-child policy

That explains some of the larger disparity but put it this way, Japan doesn't have suicide nets outside their workplaces so I think the work/life balance is a key factor.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah missed that edit, I'd say that's a deeper problem in the West with AI art in general that they don't have a good reality/fantasy distinction. We still have people saying that there's more than two genders and that third world cultures can integrate into a first world (barely nowadays) society.

Right, I remember this discussion about the prevalence of yaoi/yuri characters vs. the IRL Japanese attitude towards homosexuality. I think that's a good point, but some of the broad effects of porn, like increasing feminization of men and the collapse of normal sexual relations, can be seen in both Japan and the West. The problems will be worse over here, but we will end up sharing them.

That explains some of the larger disparity but put it this way, Japan doesn't have suicide nets outside their workplaces so I think the work/life balance is a key factor.

Yep that's true. Japan also has the same problem, the overwork and suicidal ideation, but it seems to a lesser degree.

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