It’s the same thing I say whenever the “first wave feminists just wanted equality” memes pop up. Feminism was never once about equality, otherwise where were the female coal miners and infantry conscripts? Feminism see equality as they being catered to by subservient men they loathe.
go forward with your retarded egalitarian viewpoint and have women be part of the draft in which case, it's still retarded but at least it's being applied fairly
A society that actually treats men and women the same would be considered inconceivably cruel to women by approximately 100% of the population.
Having women be treated like men doesn't just mean women register for the draft, because as we know from women who voluntarily join the military today, when things get scary and it looks like they might actually get shipped off to fight, a substantial percentage of them suddenly become pregnant. The rate of pregnancy for a forced draft, for women who never even wanted to join the military in the first place, would be extremely high. Having an actually equal draft means, at a minimum, eliminating an exception for pregnant women: when their number comes up, either they're forced on birth control, and the ones already pregnant are separated from their child and sent off to basic training after birth, or just forced abortions all around. I can't imagine the left or the right agreeing to either one of those under any circumstances. Imagine the photograph: A crying woman, a crying baby, being pulled apart by uniformed MPs. Basically nobody has the stomach for that. Men being dragged out of cars and separated from their family at the Ukranian border, no problem, but never a woman. There are many men who have died in foreign wars who never even saw their child, who is then raised having never met their father, but women will never be expected to do anything similar.
I liked the answer in Starship Troopers where Citizenship meant service. They would have a task that would be difficult but doable for anyone who applied. If they accomplished that task after years of doing it, they gained citizenship. Most joined the military, but there were other tasks of they couldn't physically do it.
Now hold on a minute. Over the course of the past few years I’ve been finding it awfully based to dodge the draft unless your homeland is attacked. I’m not going to die overseas because Joe Biden wants some Russian oil mine
It’s the same thing I say whenever the “first wave feminists just wanted equality” memes pop up. Feminism was never once about equality, otherwise where were the female coal miners and infantry conscripts? Feminism see equality as they being catered to by subservient men they loathe.
A society that actually treats men and women the same would be considered inconceivably cruel to women by approximately 100% of the population.
Having women be treated like men doesn't just mean women register for the draft, because as we know from women who voluntarily join the military today, when things get scary and it looks like they might actually get shipped off to fight, a substantial percentage of them suddenly become pregnant. The rate of pregnancy for a forced draft, for women who never even wanted to join the military in the first place, would be extremely high. Having an actually equal draft means, at a minimum, eliminating an exception for pregnant women: when their number comes up, either they're forced on birth control, and the ones already pregnant are separated from their child and sent off to basic training after birth, or just forced abortions all around. I can't imagine the left or the right agreeing to either one of those under any circumstances. Imagine the photograph: A crying woman, a crying baby, being pulled apart by uniformed MPs. Basically nobody has the stomach for that. Men being dragged out of cars and separated from their family at the Ukranian border, no problem, but never a woman. There are many men who have died in foreign wars who never even saw their child, who is then raised having never met their father, but women will never be expected to do anything similar.
Women shouldn't go to war, that's dumb.
Women should pay for the right to vote by having babies.
I liked the answer in Starship Troopers where Citizenship meant service. They would have a task that would be difficult but doable for anyone who applied. If they accomplished that task after years of doing it, they gained citizenship. Most joined the military, but there were other tasks of they couldn't physically do it.
One of the women in that movie joined solely to gain permission to become pregnant
Now hold on a minute. Over the course of the past few years I’ve been finding it awfully based to dodge the draft unless your homeland is attacked. I’m not going to die overseas because Joe Biden wants some Russian oil mine
Very well said to connect that reality back to the origin of feminism itself. "With great power comes no responsibility"... their rallying cry.
The historical ads around the issue are pretty interesting if you can find them anywhere. Interesting to see which arguments were proved correct.