There are so many practical issues with hydrogen. It’s very unlikely the major problems will be solved to an acceptable level for mainstream public. It’s probably on the same timeline as having everyone in a flying car.
It’s naturally leaky and requires very high storage pressures poses a problem for infrastructure. At present, it does not seem worth incurring all the risk just to “be green”.
However Ive got no problem with continuing to pursue and develop the tech like Toyota is doing with the Mirai.
What's cool about hydrogen is actually the storage because for a lot of uses you don't need very high pressure. For example if you wanted an off-grid power supply for your house there's no reason you couldn't get a fuel cell and a week's worth of lower pressure storage tanks for a few thousand or maybe less even.
It's a whole different tradeoff from batteries. Hydrogen is cheap hardware and expensive energy, battery is expensive hardware and cheap energy.
I suppose eventually we'll have cheap batteries made from graphene or whatever, but that might be a long way off.
You mean there are issues with something that is violently explosive at concentrations between 18% and 60%? I never would have guessed. It would be nice if the advocates of its use would remember things like the Hindenburg and Chernobyl and think ahead to the inevitable result of storing it in large concentrations all over the country.
Gasoline also explodes. The problem with handling hydrogen isn't its volatility, AFAIK. It is its tendency to escape any container you try to put it in.
There are so many practical issues with hydrogen. It’s very unlikely the major problems will be solved to an acceptable level for mainstream public. It’s probably on the same timeline as having everyone in a flying car.
There's hardly any unsolved problems with hydrogen. Basically just fuel cost, infrastructure, and exploding.
Fuel cost and infrastructure might could happen if it were given the same subsidies as EVs.
The exploding is a real problem, but it's hard to say for sure if it's overall worse than EV problems.
It’s naturally leaky and requires very high storage pressures poses a problem for infrastructure. At present, it does not seem worth incurring all the risk just to “be green”. However Ive got no problem with continuing to pursue and develop the tech like Toyota is doing with the Mirai.
What's cool about hydrogen is actually the storage because for a lot of uses you don't need very high pressure. For example if you wanted an off-grid power supply for your house there's no reason you couldn't get a fuel cell and a week's worth of lower pressure storage tanks for a few thousand or maybe less even.
It's a whole different tradeoff from batteries. Hydrogen is cheap hardware and expensive energy, battery is expensive hardware and cheap energy.
I suppose eventually we'll have cheap batteries made from graphene or whatever, but that might be a long way off.
You mean there are issues with something that is violently explosive at concentrations between 18% and 60%? I never would have guessed. It would be nice if the advocates of its use would remember things like the Hindenburg and Chernobyl and think ahead to the inevitable result of storing it in large concentrations all over the country.
Gasoline also explodes. The problem with handling hydrogen isn't its volatility, AFAIK. It is its tendency to escape any container you try to put it in.
And then once enough has escaped, it explodes.
Not unless you're otherwise concentrating it somehow. Anyways IDK what we're arguing about because I don't think hydrogen is a practical fuel.