Well I didn’t address it because to me it’s a stupid question. Like I said, I don’t give a fuck about what happens in Ukraine! I live across the world, and if western governments packed up and never meddled in Eastern Europe or anywhere else again, and spent money here instead of on foreign wars, MY little life would only improve.
But I’ll humor you even though it seems pathetically obvious. Putin topples the regime in Kiev (currently led by a comedian known for playing the piano with his dick) and annexes the eastern part of Ukraine, leaving a small rump state where he installs a friendly puppet regime. This new Kiev country might even be allowed to have elections and elect a government that is unfriendly to Russia, but it won’t matter because they’ll be effectively neutered by having their territory reduced, and they’ll probably be forced into concessions where they’re not allowed to build up a military like Japan post world war 2.
You obviously wanna say “AND THEN PUTIN WILL MARCH ON POLAND!!” But honestly, and he’s said this, there’s no reason to. Russia is turning to Eurasia and Asia for trade. They have all the resources they’ll ever need; Europe has nothing. I’ll remind you that Russia tried to join NATO and was refused because the Cold War dinosaurs in the deep state wanted to have an enemy. Russia will turn away from the west and become rich and prosperous while we sit over here and destroy ourselves with mass immigration, climate change policies, and gender ideology.
Thanks, this was my point. The idea that putin does not want to conquer ukraine and install a puppet is patently absurd. Of course he does. What else would he do. Now you and u/Assassin47/ can fight it out.
>This new Kiev country might even be allowed to have elections and elect a government that is unfriendly to Russia
Really? How has putin typically treated his political opposition?
You asked me to answer a specific hypothetical and I answered. But I never said that means he’s 100% going to take over the administration of a tiny, landlocked Ukrainian rump state after its eastern provinces are taken and it (and the rest of NATO) is demilitarized and neutered. The point is, the regime in a tiny powerless little rump state won’t matter that much, especially if they’re kept from forming a military.
And my god your moral grandstanding about Putin and his dastardly ways is so facile. Like cmon, do you think America is any better when it comes to that? Seth Rich, hello? Like ffs JFK was killed by the CIA in broad daylight in front of everyone. Do you actually think 9/11 wasn’t an inside job? Seems to me that western governments are more of a threat to me than Russia ever was. Putin never shut down my bank account for donating to a peaceful trucker protest.
lol, you think if you can just get me to “say the line” you’re scoring some sort of victory while ignoring the context of the rest of the discussion. In this case, I already implied that Putin oppresses his political opposition but also demonstrated that it’s absolutely nothing different than what every the american regime has always done. Are you autistic? Serious question.
Well I didn’t address it because to me it’s a stupid question. Like I said, I don’t give a fuck about what happens in Ukraine! I live across the world, and if western governments packed up and never meddled in Eastern Europe or anywhere else again, and spent money here instead of on foreign wars, MY little life would only improve.
But I’ll humor you even though it seems pathetically obvious. Putin topples the regime in Kiev (currently led by a comedian known for playing the piano with his dick) and annexes the eastern part of Ukraine, leaving a small rump state where he installs a friendly puppet regime. This new Kiev country might even be allowed to have elections and elect a government that is unfriendly to Russia, but it won’t matter because they’ll be effectively neutered by having their territory reduced, and they’ll probably be forced into concessions where they’re not allowed to build up a military like Japan post world war 2.
You obviously wanna say “AND THEN PUTIN WILL MARCH ON POLAND!!” But honestly, and he’s said this, there’s no reason to. Russia is turning to Eurasia and Asia for trade. They have all the resources they’ll ever need; Europe has nothing. I’ll remind you that Russia tried to join NATO and was refused because the Cold War dinosaurs in the deep state wanted to have an enemy. Russia will turn away from the west and become rich and prosperous while we sit over here and destroy ourselves with mass immigration, climate change policies, and gender ideology.
>he installs a friendly puppet regime
Thanks, this was my point. The idea that putin does not want to conquer ukraine and install a puppet is patently absurd. Of course he does. What else would he do. Now you and u/Assassin47/ can fight it out.
>This new Kiev country might even be allowed to have elections and elect a government that is unfriendly to Russia
Really? How has putin typically treated his political opposition?
You asked me to answer a specific hypothetical and I answered. But I never said that means he’s 100% going to take over the administration of a tiny, landlocked Ukrainian rump state after its eastern provinces are taken and it (and the rest of NATO) is demilitarized and neutered. The point is, the regime in a tiny powerless little rump state won’t matter that much, especially if they’re kept from forming a military. And my god your moral grandstanding about Putin and his dastardly ways is so facile. Like cmon, do you think America is any better when it comes to that? Seth Rich, hello? Like ffs JFK was killed by the CIA in broad daylight in front of everyone. Do you actually think 9/11 wasn’t an inside job? Seems to me that western governments are more of a threat to me than Russia ever was. Putin never shut down my bank account for donating to a peaceful trucker protest.
>America bad
Ok but how does putin typically treat his political opposition?
lol, you think if you can just get me to “say the line” you’re scoring some sort of victory while ignoring the context of the rest of the discussion. In this case, I already implied that Putin oppresses his political opposition but also demonstrated that it’s absolutely nothing different than what every the american regime has always done. Are you autistic? Serious question.