LOL oh dear the sad part is there are quite a few women like that out in the wild and of course they're never satisfied even with the choices they do have. It's fucking annoying what they've done to the hulk heroes generally, I hate how they turned the hulk into a literal comedy skit with muscle bound green nerd instead of classic hulk smash and even the she-hulk back in the day at least used to be a milf.
Yeah, there's so much wrong with typical modern writing even without the feminist stereotypes.
(X-0.5)/10 or above, where X is the level of attractiveness of the hotest guy who fucked her on a dating app.
That's a generalization of the the range a woman on a dating app is stuck at. Anything below, she will resent him because she is ''settling'', and will be looking for that X/10+ she thinks she can get to commit to her because she was fucked by one, once.
And considering a woman 4/10+ browsing the dating app daily likely got a 7, 8 or 9/10 to fuck her once, this explains why women rate 8/10 of men as ''below average'' ( whereas men rate women on a perfect bell curve of attractiveness ).
hoe_math explains very well how attraction works, how women become totally delusional about their value and men's value.
Also fairly telling men that investing in her ( time, kindness, money ) will not make her sexually desire you, you have to work on your appearance and get fit for women to desire you instead of friendzoning you.
When women and society give you the advice to ''just be nice'', ''just be yourself'', ''it's okay to be soft, chubby, gym rats are dumb and women don't want gym rats'' they are lying to you. She will not fuck your niceness. She will fuck your body. So chisel your body, groom and wash it if you want a woman to desire it. Treating her well, niceness and fidelity is how you move from fuckboy zone into long term relationship zone.
You can't ''power-nice-guy'' your way out of the friend-zone, you need to make yourself fuckable first.
Or be ridiculously rich and land a gold digger. But that dosen't feel very nice when you know she wants to fuck your wallet, not you.
I agree with a lot of this and it's also why I moved away from dating.
You say "it doesn't feel very nice when you know she wants to fuck your wallet"
I agree as well. But it also doesn't feel good to know she doesn't want who I am. As someone who fluctuated wildly thru school and afterwards and has settled pretty fit atp, I became greatly disillusioned with women as a whole.
I was a fat kid and was bullied for it, hit puberty and trimmed up, and it stopped. I had some depression issues relating to ADHD meds I took in middle school and that fattened me up again, and the bullying recommenced. I trimmed up again with Rugby in high school. Fattened up again when the sports stopped. I've finally mostly regulated myself and am in a good spot, not as good as when I was a starting Prop but whatever.
I tell you the most hate and bullying I got was from women. I had guys "bully" me for weight, but really most of it was the guys trying to get me to be ashamed and get right, tho I couldn't help it at times like with medication. The women went from being attracted to treating me like I didn't exist or was inhuman scum, and back again. It was insane. The men didn't do that. It was just ribbing and pushing me to get better. They still were my friends or acquaintances, talked to me.
Honestly I don't know how you guys do it, but more power to you. I can't anymore. Seeing it happen in real time how women dehumanize you and go psychotically cold toward you based on attraction levels was nutty. Made me very wary of them.
I know people might roll their eyes at this but in a rare move I'm going to defend 'women' on this one. Even with the shit that I've been through, there are women out there who are at least vaguely normal and don't do any of that shit. Two things to take note of, school is hell, it's why I didn't go to university because the more I learned about what life was really like it would probably feel like school on steroids back then. I would have certainly been one of those guys that got struggle sessioned into being an SJW and literally cucked by a feminist.
I got picked on back in school just because people thought I was a weak target ( As a childhood friend even put it ) I'm not somebody who was fat in school or anything like that, I just didn't stand out but also I was surrounded by a Muslim majority for most of my life so good luck finding girls in that environment.
When it comes to the types of women you hang out with you've just got to stay away from the schoolgirl clique types who haven't grown up and also keep an eye on physiognomy. I got up in my parents' face about the school situation and ended up going to another school after awhile. It was marginally better because I wasn't having to worry as much about physical safety, but would still never want to go back or hang out with most of the people there. Didn't bother with the stupid school reunion.
I've posted about this previously before but it's like with the staff photographs of game studios. Most of these weirdos now have uniforms to display their mental illness and that's something to really bear in mind with women. This isn't me trying to make you feel any better it's just actual advice on women. A lot of them are insecure as fuck which is why they overdose on makeup, have tans, tattoos and even the ones that dye their hair fairly normally usually have issues.
Even other women have talked to me about how much they hate this so that should tell you something. Never be afraid of being called a misogynist by them for sticking up for yourself. They won't ever even befriend you anyway and treat their own friends like shit and again this is something I've ended up confirming. There's also no accounting for some crazy admittedly which is sometimes what's happened to me but again if you make friends with their friends and they get to know you it's a pay off.
What happened with recent attempts at socialising in a group is I had them sperging out at me over the tiniest shit or they just started acting mean over fuck all. Even the people that knew them were like "wtf?" over it and I just washed my hands on the whole thing. It was damn funny because you know it's bad when even one of their own discord moderators thought the behaviour was uncalled for. It's not my responsibility to make sure they act like a fucking adult when they're at that age and you know if you stick up for yourself in a discord group for example they're just going to ban you because of the heavy in-group preference so I ditched them. I made it very clear the only time I'd ever outright ghost people is if they pissed me off. So they know exactly what's up and they know my haunts online so that unfortunately tells me how much they really gave a fuck.
If it weren't for the fact that they were such massively hostile bitches, I would feel sorry for their obvious mental problems. However that's the problem, they always blame men for everything and shit on people at every opportunity. I just think this might make you feel better that it's not only you going through this kind of thing with women, tons of men and even quite a few women have to deal with these morons and they've been given a disproportionate amount of power in society.
TLDR: Mean girls are real and are unpleasant bitches with major insecurities they project onto men, make friends with peoples' friends in order to protect yourself and it will tell you if they're gaslighting hoes who try and pick on you. Other women can't stand them either which is why they sometimes only hang out with guys.
I got bullied and had zero people show sexual interest in me too. The bullying largely died-down when we teenagers matured, and by strictly sticking to : shut up if you have nothing nice to say about people, no matter the context or who is there to hear it. That's for school. After school I didn't spend much time with people.
Yes people get more touchy and friendly when you get fit. ( Women doing those small random physical contacts during conversations. )
I was so spiteful of that when I was younger. ''Oh people are so shallow, I am a good person and I'm nice to people!'' Well humans ( me included ) are visual creatures hard-wired to find certain trait attractive and others repulsive to make them choose fit mates. Too bad. Resenting that won't change it.
So I put my energy into hobbies and I accepted humans aren't that complex : if you want to be sexually desired, make yourself sexually desirable on aspects under your control.
Some of my hobbies I can share with people, that's nice, but I'm only comfortable if the hobby is the center of attention, not other personal stuff normal people make small talk about.
I don't care that much for dating, so I don't date either. Not that anyone hit on me, and I never hit on anyone.
Still, getting fit alleviates depression. Pills didn't have a positive impact for me. Daily exercise did. People wanting to be friendly to you more is a bonus, but I'm a loner anyway.
I very much agree with this and hate how women and society keeps telling men the opposite.
It's completely understandable that a woman wouldn't want to fuck you if you're a chubby out of shape piece of shit. When you break it down to base animal kingdom level scrubbing away all the human social norms, you're showing that you're a bad potential mate with poor impulse control and no desire to improve. That's really the crux of it, like if you don't want to be in the friend-zone (And this applies to all social human relationships) go to the gym and cut down on the calories you consume.
LOL oh dear the sad part is there are quite a few women like that out in the wild and of course they're never satisfied even with the choices they do have. It's fucking annoying what they've done to the hulk heroes generally, I hate how they turned the hulk into a literal comedy skit with muscle bound green nerd instead of classic hulk smash and even the she-hulk back in the day at least used to be a milf.
Yeah, there's so much wrong with typical modern writing even without the feminist stereotypes.
(X-0.5)/10 or above, where X is the level of attractiveness of the hotest guy who fucked her on a dating app.
That's a generalization of the the range a woman on a dating app is stuck at. Anything below, she will resent him because she is ''settling'', and will be looking for that X/10+ she thinks she can get to commit to her because she was fucked by one, once.
And considering a woman 4/10+ browsing the dating app daily likely got a 7, 8 or 9/10 to fuck her once, this explains why women rate 8/10 of men as ''below average'' ( whereas men rate women on a perfect bell curve of attractiveness ).
hoe_math explains very well how attraction works, how women become totally delusional about their value and men's value.
Also fairly telling men that investing in her ( time, kindness, money ) will not make her sexually desire you, you have to work on your appearance and get fit for women to desire you instead of friendzoning you.
When women and society give you the advice to ''just be nice'', ''just be yourself'', ''it's okay to be soft, chubby, gym rats are dumb and women don't want gym rats'' they are lying to you. She will not fuck your niceness. She will fuck your body. So chisel your body, groom and wash it if you want a woman to desire it. Treating her well, niceness and fidelity is how you move from fuckboy zone into long term relationship zone.
You can't ''power-nice-guy'' your way out of the friend-zone, you need to make yourself fuckable first.
Or be ridiculously rich and land a gold digger. But that dosen't feel very nice when you know she wants to fuck your wallet, not you.
I agree with a lot of this and it's also why I moved away from dating.
You say "it doesn't feel very nice when you know she wants to fuck your wallet" I agree as well. But it also doesn't feel good to know she doesn't want who I am. As someone who fluctuated wildly thru school and afterwards and has settled pretty fit atp, I became greatly disillusioned with women as a whole.
I was a fat kid and was bullied for it, hit puberty and trimmed up, and it stopped. I had some depression issues relating to ADHD meds I took in middle school and that fattened me up again, and the bullying recommenced. I trimmed up again with Rugby in high school. Fattened up again when the sports stopped. I've finally mostly regulated myself and am in a good spot, not as good as when I was a starting Prop but whatever.
I tell you the most hate and bullying I got was from women. I had guys "bully" me for weight, but really most of it was the guys trying to get me to be ashamed and get right, tho I couldn't help it at times like with medication. The women went from being attracted to treating me like I didn't exist or was inhuman scum, and back again. It was insane. The men didn't do that. It was just ribbing and pushing me to get better. They still were my friends or acquaintances, talked to me.
Honestly I don't know how you guys do it, but more power to you. I can't anymore. Seeing it happen in real time how women dehumanize you and go psychotically cold toward you based on attraction levels was nutty. Made me very wary of them.
I know people might roll their eyes at this but in a rare move I'm going to defend 'women' on this one. Even with the shit that I've been through, there are women out there who are at least vaguely normal and don't do any of that shit. Two things to take note of, school is hell, it's why I didn't go to university because the more I learned about what life was really like it would probably feel like school on steroids back then. I would have certainly been one of those guys that got struggle sessioned into being an SJW and literally cucked by a feminist.
I got picked on back in school just because people thought I was a weak target ( As a childhood friend even put it ) I'm not somebody who was fat in school or anything like that, I just didn't stand out but also I was surrounded by a Muslim majority for most of my life so good luck finding girls in that environment.
When it comes to the types of women you hang out with you've just got to stay away from the schoolgirl clique types who haven't grown up and also keep an eye on physiognomy. I got up in my parents' face about the school situation and ended up going to another school after awhile. It was marginally better because I wasn't having to worry as much about physical safety, but would still never want to go back or hang out with most of the people there. Didn't bother with the stupid school reunion.
I've posted about this previously before but it's like with the staff photographs of game studios. Most of these weirdos now have uniforms to display their mental illness and that's something to really bear in mind with women. This isn't me trying to make you feel any better it's just actual advice on women. A lot of them are insecure as fuck which is why they overdose on makeup, have tans, tattoos and even the ones that dye their hair fairly normally usually have issues.
Even other women have talked to me about how much they hate this so that should tell you something. Never be afraid of being called a misogynist by them for sticking up for yourself. They won't ever even befriend you anyway and treat their own friends like shit and again this is something I've ended up confirming. There's also no accounting for some crazy admittedly which is sometimes what's happened to me but again if you make friends with their friends and they get to know you it's a pay off.
What happened with recent attempts at socialising in a group is I had them sperging out at me over the tiniest shit or they just started acting mean over fuck all. Even the people that knew them were like "wtf?" over it and I just washed my hands on the whole thing. It was damn funny because you know it's bad when even one of their own discord moderators thought the behaviour was uncalled for. It's not my responsibility to make sure they act like a fucking adult when they're at that age and you know if you stick up for yourself in a discord group for example they're just going to ban you because of the heavy in-group preference so I ditched them. I made it very clear the only time I'd ever outright ghost people is if they pissed me off. So they know exactly what's up and they know my haunts online so that unfortunately tells me how much they really gave a fuck.
If it weren't for the fact that they were such massively hostile bitches, I would feel sorry for their obvious mental problems. However that's the problem, they always blame men for everything and shit on people at every opportunity. I just think this might make you feel better that it's not only you going through this kind of thing with women, tons of men and even quite a few women have to deal with these morons and they've been given a disproportionate amount of power in society.
TLDR: Mean girls are real and are unpleasant bitches with major insecurities they project onto men, make friends with peoples' friends in order to protect yourself and it will tell you if they're gaslighting hoes who try and pick on you. Other women can't stand them either which is why they sometimes only hang out with guys.
I got bullied and had zero people show sexual interest in me too. The bullying largely died-down when we teenagers matured, and by strictly sticking to : shut up if you have nothing nice to say about people, no matter the context or who is there to hear it. That's for school. After school I didn't spend much time with people.
Yes people get more touchy and friendly when you get fit. ( Women doing those small random physical contacts during conversations. )
I was so spiteful of that when I was younger. ''Oh people are so shallow, I am a good person and I'm nice to people!'' Well humans ( me included ) are visual creatures hard-wired to find certain trait attractive and others repulsive to make them choose fit mates. Too bad. Resenting that won't change it.
So I put my energy into hobbies and I accepted humans aren't that complex : if you want to be sexually desired, make yourself sexually desirable on aspects under your control.
Some of my hobbies I can share with people, that's nice, but I'm only comfortable if the hobby is the center of attention, not other personal stuff normal people make small talk about.
I don't care that much for dating, so I don't date either. Not that anyone hit on me, and I never hit on anyone.
Still, getting fit alleviates depression. Pills didn't have a positive impact for me. Daily exercise did. People wanting to be friendly to you more is a bonus, but I'm a loner anyway.
I very much agree with this and hate how women and society keeps telling men the opposite.
It's completely understandable that a woman wouldn't want to fuck you if you're a chubby out of shape piece of shit. When you break it down to base animal kingdom level scrubbing away all the human social norms, you're showing that you're a bad potential mate with poor impulse control and no desire to improve. That's really the crux of it, like if you don't want to be in the friend-zone (And this applies to all social human relationships) go to the gym and cut down on the calories you consume.