Does it even qualify as a movement anymore? With Trump's election prospects actually looking quite good, I'm not seeing much about reinstating his Title IX reforms that Biden immediately nixed.
Well that's the thing. They are all trying to accomplish different things.
You seem to be thinking all of them are MRAs and have some grand political activism. Most of them are individual focused and their "movement's" entire goal is to just recruit more men to get them the help they need, with the only larger scale thought being that if enough men change they will be rendered redundant. With a lot of grifting in between.
The "manosphere" was a label that was mostly used by feminists and their ilk to describe "anyone who opposes us" once MRAs ceased to be the only dog in town. It wasn't some political party people signed up to join nor did it ever even describe anyone other than a loosely related bunch of different groups.
You seem to be really hung up on what you think all these various groups should be and are disappointed they aren't fitting in your specific box you put the label on.
Which is particularly baffling, as probably half of them don't even believe that the government or laws or society are fixable and as such put minimal effort into trying to "reform" them.
IT's more that I'm baffled as to how much the "manosphere" sucks compared to a few years ago. It doesn't make any sense. They have opportunities ahead.
Do you not believe the 2020 election was fraudulent? If they did that once and nothing changed, why do you actually think Trump will be allowed to take office again?
Does it even qualify as a movement anymore? With Trump's election prospects actually looking quite good, I'm not seeing much about reinstating his Title IX reforms that Biden immediately nixed.
Well that's the thing. They are all trying to accomplish different things.
You seem to be thinking all of them are MRAs and have some grand political activism. Most of them are individual focused and their "movement's" entire goal is to just recruit more men to get them the help they need, with the only larger scale thought being that if enough men change they will be rendered redundant. With a lot of grifting in between.
The "manosphere" was a label that was mostly used by feminists and their ilk to describe "anyone who opposes us" once MRAs ceased to be the only dog in town. It wasn't some political party people signed up to join nor did it ever even describe anyone other than a loosely related bunch of different groups.
All of that was true 7+ years ago, but there was still an effective push for Title IX reform. I don't know why things have so shitty since then.
You seem to be really hung up on what you think all these various groups should be and are disappointed they aren't fitting in your specific box you put the label on.
Which is particularly baffling, as probably half of them don't even believe that the government or laws or society are fixable and as such put minimal effort into trying to "reform" them.
IT's more that I'm baffled as to how much the "manosphere" sucks compared to a few years ago. It doesn't make any sense. They have opportunities ahead.
Do you not believe the 2020 election was fraudulent? If they did that once and nothing changed, why do you actually think Trump will be allowed to take office again?