A buddy of mine sent me an article from a shill media site because he knew I’d roll my eyes and it was the usual tripe attacking fans and praised the last Jedi for “showing” that it’s ok to make bold decisions that fans don’t realize they need. Of course it mentioned that “fanboys were mad because they wanted a heroic Luke”. Of the many reasons I despise that movie, one is definitely this notion that subversion of expectations is brilliant writing.
What’s wrong with wanting to see a hero of a movie be heroic? I hope Rian Johnson never gets a hold of Superman. To be fair TFA should’ve had an opening scene with Luke training new Jedi. Had Rey been one of his students she would’ve been received much better. Plus you could’ve had more Jedi characters to build future stories and could’ve had Luke’s Jedi Academy at Disney world as an attraction.
Anyway, sorry about that rant. I just find that “subversion” as annoying as the Stranger Thigs season 3 where they set up that guy and the girl at the ice cream shop to be a couple (original plan) only to make her gay. Media shills actually called that a bold move. About as bold as race/gender swaps. A show that is an homage to the 80s thought that was a good idea
If they were to make a Rey movie and make her weak and a quitter, then I’ll buy the whole subversion thing. But the fact that they did this to a white male character that a lot of fans liked tells me it was very politically motivated
Only rarely in my life have I seen the concept of subversion used as anything other than a post facto defense for incompetence. Accidental or otherwise.
Take the Starship Troopers movie for instance. The movie they set out to make was supposed to be intentionally bad, and it's only good by accident. What do they say after the fact? Oh they were just trying to subvert the source material. You just don't understand irony bro.
Liberals gaslight every time they breathe.
And the book is attacked by lefties. They also attack stranger in a strange land for some reason. This is why I despise listening to feminists or any Gen z lefty criticizing science fiction from the past. I always saw Starship Troopers the book as a love letter to the military. I enjoyed the movie but I’d love a faithful book adaptation but not in the time we live in
Of course the book is attacked by leftists. It's a blueprint and recruitment poster for a world that functions perfectly well without them in it. In fact, a world that functions perfectly well because they're not in it.
The current military notwithstanding I honestly don’t mind the idea of being a veteran to be able to vote or serving in some capacity to earn your voting rights
Silent Hill 2 did subversion well and I guess what's pretty much it. Other media trying to subvert expectations mostly do it for the shock factor and fail to build upon it, it's like a bad punchline
Kotor 2, because Avellone loves subversion. But he's an actual decent writer.