We concede when we make the choice of having a greater authority holding society together "for the greater good."
If you reject government entirely, that's fine if a little dumb. But I doubt you or most anyone does. So as long as we have laws in place constraining us, then we cannot pick and choose when to apply those laws and principles.
In this case, either the government shouldn't be involved in our relationships at all, and you should be marching against tax codes and marriage licenses long before you were ever pro/neutral-gay, or you are pro-Fed in our relationships because the "consenting adults" argument was always used by the LGBT movement to get the Federal Government to force the State and Local Governments to let them get married and get the Feds more involved in our relationships.
You can't have it both ways, and you can't just pipe off libertarian utopia slogans to dodge that fact.
I indeed believe the government has no business butting into our relationships when nobody is getting hurt. that's my point.
I am not picking and choosing laws or applications. Authorities 100% have a right to police behavior and actions that cause harm to those who did not/cannot agree to being involved. Things like public indecency, theft, assault, child exploitation, etc.
But when people of sound body and mind, and of legal age, agree to something, it is tyranny for authorities to stop them.
Then you work against your own beliefs, because you admitted to believing in the "Consenting Adults" line. Which was always a slogan for pulling the federal government into people's relationships by forcefully legalizing gay marriage after it was rejected by basically every state and local government.
Again, you are just piping off libertarian slogans to dodge around reality and how it works.
And thank god we had to get the Federal Government involved to threaten and force it to be legalized instead of having local and state legislation do so. That's very anti-fed of you.
We concede when we make the choice of having a greater authority holding society together "for the greater good."
If you reject government entirely, that's fine if a little dumb. But I doubt you or most anyone does. So as long as we have laws in place constraining us, then we cannot pick and choose when to apply those laws and principles.
In this case, either the government shouldn't be involved in our relationships at all, and you should be marching against tax codes and marriage licenses long before you were ever pro/neutral-gay, or you are pro-Fed in our relationships because the "consenting adults" argument was always used by the LGBT movement to get the Federal Government to force the State and Local Governments to let them get married and get the Feds more involved in our relationships.
You can't have it both ways, and you can't just pipe off libertarian utopia slogans to dodge that fact.
I indeed believe the government has no business butting into our relationships when nobody is getting hurt. that's my point.
I am not picking and choosing laws or applications. Authorities 100% have a right to police behavior and actions that cause harm to those who did not/cannot agree to being involved. Things like public indecency, theft, assault, child exploitation, etc.
But when people of sound body and mind, and of legal age, agree to something, it is tyranny for authorities to stop them.
Then you work against your own beliefs, because you admitted to believing in the "Consenting Adults" line. Which was always a slogan for pulling the federal government into people's relationships by forcefully legalizing gay marriage after it was rejected by basically every state and local government.
Again, you are just piping off libertarian slogans to dodge around reality and how it works.
redefining terms is not an argument.
Gay marriage was explicitly illegal. "Legalizing" it was simply removing that government intervention.
And thank god we had to get the Federal Government involved to threaten and force it to be legalized instead of having local and state legislation do so. That's very anti-fed of you.