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Christians when the pope allows gay marriage. (media.scored.co)
posted 1 year ago by Bluestorm 1 year ago by Bluestorm +2 / -21
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– Piroko 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Actually it might surprise you that Quakers, all the way back to George Fox, say very little about salvation at all.

The main thrust of Quakerism has always been about living by the Sermons of the Mount and the Plain, and thus bringing about the kingdom of heaven on Earth.

You know how the Muslims insist that there will be peace when the whole world is united in worship of Allah? We're basically the peacenik version of that same argument.

Growing up in the 90's in a Quaker town, I heard Bill & Ted's "be excellent to each other" quip a lot.

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– Smith1980 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

But I definitely try to see everyone as my brother and sister and following the greatest commandment. I have failed but constantly working on it. Also having to remember that you can love without condoning sin, but showing love is extremely important

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– Smith1980 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I mean I get living by the sermon on the mount but you do believe we have a soul and there is more beyond death?

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– Piroko 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

That very question is why, for the last 400 years, most Christians have insisted that Quakers aren't Christians.

The Religious Society of Friends formed in isolation from the rest of the continental protestants. George Fox's teachings really emphasized getting back to the TEACHINGS OF CHRIST, the four books, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and living those in practice. It was a very pragmatic, very ENGLISH approach to faith, focused on the world as it is and how it ought be, and our existence within it.

We're often contrasted with the Calvinists, who also don't say very much about the soul and the afterlife, but for radically different reasons. The Calvinists have a very pessimistic, very GERMAN way of approaching faith, and in their view, god's universe is determined. You have no possibility of knowing your standing with god.

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– Smith1980 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I’ve always considered Quakers to be Christians but Jesus does discuss the world beyond and said that those who believe in him will never die. I go to a Lutheran church now and was raised non denominational. Granted I just see myself as a Christian.

I do understand not to be so caught up with heaven that you forsake serving your fellow man. But we all will leave the physical world

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