I've been through enough AVFM and other retarded MRAs to need more than just a name to think these guy isn't just contributing to the Feminist Cause through milquetoast compromise and controlled opposition.
Its the same old "feminism worked, so just repeat what they did" game MRAs have been trying for decades. Its what MGTOWs did, its what TRP did, its what AVFM and all the other MRAs of the 00s did. Just repeat different facets of feminism and hope it works this time.
Its why all their movements fail, because no one gives a shit about men or what they do until it reaches a critical mass of effecting society that none of those groups will ever accomplish. We are disposable and we always will be, our suffering is lesser and our tears make people disgusted with us. Trying to weaponize that is forever a losing battle.
Their movements fail because the ruling class doesn't support them. People think the left had some secret sauce strategy that they try to replicate. The strategy is just "have the support of the ruling class."
That said, I think alt-queer theory garbage is going to emerge even if it's not tactical. It's the end point of liberalism, and most of the manosphere are just (sometimes female exclusionary) liberals.
You can't just have the support of the ruling class, else we would have had a Hillary president. You also need to be able to pull the populace in with something.
Crying women is easy to get people on board with, as is their pain and suffering something we instinctually seek to assuage. Men have nothing of the sort in their pocket.
I also think most of the manosphere ends up closer to the Left-Leaning Libertarian side, which is far worse because they want contradictory positions they don't even know are exclusive.
Could you explain what women are again? It seemed clear until you insisted that Jewish women were to be trusted when claiming they were raped and also were worth dying to defend.
I didn't insist anything. What I said was that it was interesting how the women's movement ditched the "believe women" cause when they actually had people with evidence.
Because MeToo was always just a way to acquire power through a coup of the entertainment industry and whatever other fields they could get into. That's all it ever was. It was never about "justice", it was about female power.
Believing Israel wouldn't give them any power, so they ditched it.
Sounds like he isn't right about anything, as he is still trying to play the "we can be EQUALS!" game by letting them have opinions and falling for their "I just care soooooo much about men's plights, I'm not like other girls."
Does he also think Karen Straughan is a brilliant leader for men? That's all I need to complete the set.
I've been through enough AVFM and other retarded MRAs to need more than just a name to think these guy isn't just contributing to the Feminist Cause through milquetoast compromise and controlled opposition.
"Gender Studies for Men" sounds like some alt-queer theorist garbage, but that does seem to be the direction the non-trad "manosphere" is going.
Its the same old "feminism worked, so just repeat what they did" game MRAs have been trying for decades. Its what MGTOWs did, its what TRP did, its what AVFM and all the other MRAs of the 00s did. Just repeat different facets of feminism and hope it works this time.
Its why all their movements fail, because no one gives a shit about men or what they do until it reaches a critical mass of effecting society that none of those groups will ever accomplish. We are disposable and we always will be, our suffering is lesser and our tears make people disgusted with us. Trying to weaponize that is forever a losing battle.
Their movements fail because the ruling class doesn't support them. People think the left had some secret sauce strategy that they try to replicate. The strategy is just "have the support of the ruling class."
That said, I think alt-queer theory garbage is going to emerge even if it's not tactical. It's the end point of liberalism, and most of the manosphere are just (sometimes female exclusionary) liberals.
You can't just have the support of the ruling class, else we would have had a Hillary president. You also need to be able to pull the populace in with something.
Crying women is easy to get people on board with, as is their pain and suffering something we instinctually seek to assuage. Men have nothing of the sort in their pocket.
I also think most of the manosphere ends up closer to the Left-Leaning Libertarian side, which is far worse because they want contradictory positions they don't even know are exclusive.
Surprised it's not called "Gender Studies for Trans Women uwu" or some shit
I've interacted with this user on X a lot. Probably should have archived something.
He has some some dumb takes, but is mostly correct about what women are.
Sadly, the only archive is just a stream of reposts.
https://archive.is/7WBT7
I just noticed that account retweeted Abby Shapiro. No wonder you like it so much.
Actually, I think it was seven million.
My wife is a doctor
Could you explain what women are again? It seemed clear until you insisted that Jewish women were to be trusted when claiming they were raped and also were worth dying to defend.
I didn't insist anything. What I said was that it was interesting how the women's movement ditched the "believe women" cause when they actually had people with evidence.
Because MeToo was always just a way to acquire power through a coup of the entertainment industry and whatever other fields they could get into. That's all it ever was. It was never about "justice", it was about female power.
Believing Israel wouldn't give them any power, so they ditched it.
You stickied a post in your little fiefdom that said, "stand with Israel." Don't try to water your stance down now.
When did Nikki Haley, Libs of Tik Tok, and Ron DeSantis drop support for Israel?
Sounds like he isn't right about anything, as he is still trying to play the "we can be EQUALS!" game by letting them have opinions and falling for their "I just care soooooo much about men's plights, I'm not like other girls."
Does he also think Karen Straughan is a brilliant leader for men? That's all I need to complete the set.