Its the same old "feminism worked, so just repeat what they did" game MRAs have been trying for decades. Its what MGTOWs did, its what TRP did, its what AVFM and all the other MRAs of the 00s did. Just repeat different facets of feminism and hope it works this time.
Its why all their movements fail, because no one gives a shit about men or what they do until it reaches a critical mass of effecting society that none of those groups will ever accomplish. We are disposable and we always will be, our suffering is lesser and our tears make people disgusted with us. Trying to weaponize that is forever a losing battle.
Their movements fail because the ruling class doesn't support them. People think the left had some secret sauce strategy that they try to replicate. The strategy is just "have the support of the ruling class."
That said, I think alt-queer theory garbage is going to emerge even if it's not tactical. It's the end point of liberalism, and most of the manosphere are just (sometimes female exclusionary) liberals.
You can't just have the support of the ruling class, else we would have had a Hillary president. You also need to be able to pull the populace in with something.
Crying women is easy to get people on board with, as is their pain and suffering something we instinctually seek to assuage. Men have nothing of the sort in their pocket.
I also think most of the manosphere ends up closer to the Left-Leaning Libertarian side, which is far worse because they want contradictory positions they don't even know are exclusive.
"Gender Studies for Men" sounds like some alt-queer theorist garbage, but that does seem to be the direction the non-trad "manosphere" is going.
Its the same old "feminism worked, so just repeat what they did" game MRAs have been trying for decades. Its what MGTOWs did, its what TRP did, its what AVFM and all the other MRAs of the 00s did. Just repeat different facets of feminism and hope it works this time.
Its why all their movements fail, because no one gives a shit about men or what they do until it reaches a critical mass of effecting society that none of those groups will ever accomplish. We are disposable and we always will be, our suffering is lesser and our tears make people disgusted with us. Trying to weaponize that is forever a losing battle.
Their movements fail because the ruling class doesn't support them. People think the left had some secret sauce strategy that they try to replicate. The strategy is just "have the support of the ruling class."
That said, I think alt-queer theory garbage is going to emerge even if it's not tactical. It's the end point of liberalism, and most of the manosphere are just (sometimes female exclusionary) liberals.
You can't just have the support of the ruling class, else we would have had a Hillary president. You also need to be able to pull the populace in with something.
Crying women is easy to get people on board with, as is their pain and suffering something we instinctually seek to assuage. Men have nothing of the sort in their pocket.
I also think most of the manosphere ends up closer to the Left-Leaning Libertarian side, which is far worse because they want contradictory positions they don't even know are exclusive.
Surprised it's not called "Gender Studies for Trans Women uwu" or some shit