It’s almost like it happens every single time
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Your name is literally RaceCreatesCulture. Do you want a good culture or not? Obviously personal choices play a part in that. I'm not even picking sides, if you want to be a degenerate, you do you. I get it, even. But at least own it. And don't act like you're a good guy if you go that way though. Giving up and embracing the culture is hardly revolutionary or anything, and you're not making anything better, which you seem to be in favor of.
Not to get in the middle of this, but he does have a point.
In order for the proper race (i.e., Whites) to (re)build Western society, you need a strong cultural foundation and an impenetrable community stronghold from which that foundation can be laid.
With today's wenches, it just isn't possible, or possible only across the thinnest of margins. Roughly 15% of women between 18 and 29 are still virgins, so you have a very small margin of women who haven't racked up bodycounts who could be potential long-term partners in a stable relationship in which to raise a family. But that's just the starting point for building a family, you also have to deal with government interference in Western nations, as obvious in places like the U.K., France, Spain, Germany, and the U.S., as well as social media influence, which leads countless women astray since any woman with any visual media on a public profile is eligible to be contacted by men from around the world, and you also have to deal with friends/families/co-workers/etc., who could also influence her and lead her astray.
While RaceCreatesCulture is making blackpilled posts in this thread, he's not entirely wrong about the outcome if we're just running a numbers game, especially when you look at the dwindling percentages of eligible women to build a family with, the amount of illegal immigrants flooding Western nations, and the economic pitfalls that faces not just two-income households, but especially single-income households where a man may want his wife to be a stay-at-home mother.
The odds are horriblsy stacked against those who want to (re)build a better culture.
There's no "this" to get in the middle of, for the record. At least I hope there isn't. My intent really wasn't to try to pick a fight or anything. I don't have a problem with anyone really, and agree with him on some points. It just does strike me as somewhat hypocritical to indulge in or cheer on the same sort of stuff you otherwise condemn.
Agreed. But men and women play off each other. Women suck nowadays. So do men. If the men who know better engage in the same sort of behavior that encourages women to be shit, how can there be change? Again, I totally get the impulse, and I also get the argument that one man who could get theirs but chooses not to wouldn't make a difference. But I also believe personal choice does play a part, and if more people went with what they knew was right versus what they knew they could get away with, perhaps things could be better.
It's a sucky situation. Why should men suffer on the off chance their actions can make women marginally better? It's a shit ask, admittedly. But, for better or worse, that is kind of the role men have often taken. If we think women are shit, we obviously can't trust them to make the world a better place, right? So that leaves men. And, again, if the men who know better just give into the current system, where does change come from?
Man, when you put it like that...Yeah, it's pretty fucking easy to be blackpilled, I get that.
I never said he was wrong, pragmatically. Just that the attitude is, perhaps, self defeating. Again, I get it's a big - heck, monumental - ask. It's mighty tempting, I totally agree. If sluts gonna slut, might as well get some sluts. I get the argument. But I also realize that doesn't make anything better.
Yup. And always has been. Question is, do we care enough to try?
I suppose this is really the crux of the matter, and RaceCreatesCulture makes the compelling argument (or at least the gist of what he puts forth) that those of us who would like to see better have already lost.
So you're fighting an uphill battle from underneath; and it does put the onus on those who would like to see better in the awful position of doing "their part", but to what end will it affect anything?
And neither is trying to act superior bitching at guys on the internet about degeneracy. That doesn't make anything better either. There's good and bad people out there in this world. If you want to have some short term relationships with some whores then have at it. It won't change fuck all. I'm just telling people that's what you ought to do. Trying to have a long term relationship with a whore is just going to end in disaster so if having relationships with whores are your thing. Make sure to treat them like a car lease. Get the newest model, keep for a minimum amount of time and don't get attached.
I'm not trying to act superior, for the record.
On the individual scale, no. And, again, I completely get the argument. But if we do want anything to change, it does start from person decisions and lifestyle choices.
If we have a problem with whores, for instance, don't engage in the whoredom. The best solution to the current conundrum is not to give in, but to try to stop them from being whores, right?
Yeah, that's one viewpoint, but I'm saying I'm not sure it's the best. Again, totally get the appeal of the argument, but it's not a great long-term answer.
Agreed. But better answer is to not have relationships with those types at all.