Fraiser and that Chucky show.
Roughly five minutes into both we find out the sons are gay. And in Chucky the Dad is openly homophobic lol
I knew it was unlikely that I'd get into either show, but I thought I'd last longer than 5 minutes.
Not a very interesting post I know but whatever. Fraiser is one of my favorite sit-coms and it's too bad they couldn't do a decent follow up. (though they probably never should have tried)
When Fraiser surprises his son with a visit, his son let's him believe his female roommate is his girlfriend. When Fraiser leaves, either the son or the female roommate says something about the son not being ready to explain the -insert male name-situation with his dad.
Which seemed pretty clearly saying, "I'm not ready to tell my Dad I'm gay", although I stopped watching right after that so I guess it's possible I interpreted it wrong.
There was a time when a gay character here and there didn’t bother me but with the few times I watch modern shows now if I see it I turn it off. I used to think my parents were hyperbolic for doing that but now I’ve turned into my parents
Ha, I don't even get that far -- I read comments/reviews/skim the parents guide on IMDB and any hint of that stuff and it's removed from the watchlist instantly.
I'm having a hard time thinking about the last recent show I've seen? I think I saw a few episodes of Game of Thrones back when it first came out and then stopped, but haven't bothered with anything else since then.
Yea my rule of thumb is not to watch anything after 2014 without a trusted recommendation. I most recently was watching Columbo
For me it's usually only a nuisance when it's a focal point of a plot or subplot, and overdramatized. It's outdated and usually involves the laziest writing, frankly. Nobody gives a shit about that anymore because it's become so widely accepted by Western culture.
Same goes for race or slavery related plots. I remember that shit popping up in the first season of Legends of Tomorrow and I immediately noped out of the episode. Not that the series was that good overall, but that stood out as a good early example of how old and tiresome that shit was.
My dad was watching that show and he told me his famous line “it went gay on me”. I’m with you about slavery or race related stuff. I hear enough of that with my extended family. The only slave related show or documentary I’d watch would be something about non-western slave owners. Like an honest telling of Mansa Musa’s empire. I have read that he had zero issues with owning slaves.
Yeah, I guess I should've specified black slavery in the US as the subject that was tiresome as a plot or theme.
And I too would be curious to see some exploration into other examples of historical slavery in other regions. You mention Mali as one example, and of course we've seen examples in ancient Rome multiple times. I'd also be curious to see some more examples regarding the Barbary Pirates, examples in ancient Greece, etc.