Fraiser and that Chucky show.
Roughly five minutes into both we find out the sons are gay. And in Chucky the Dad is openly homophobic lol
I knew it was unlikely that I'd get into either show, but I thought I'd last longer than 5 minutes.
Not a very interesting post I know but whatever. Fraiser is one of my favorite sit-coms and it's too bad they couldn't do a decent follow up. (though they probably never should have tried)
For me it's usually only a nuisance when it's a focal point of a plot or subplot, and overdramatized. It's outdated and usually involves the laziest writing, frankly. Nobody gives a shit about that anymore because it's become so widely accepted by Western culture.
Same goes for race or slavery related plots. I remember that shit popping up in the first season of Legends of Tomorrow and I immediately noped out of the episode. Not that the series was that good overall, but that stood out as a good early example of how old and tiresome that shit was.
My dad was watching that show and he told me his famous line “it went gay on me”. I’m with you about slavery or race related stuff. I hear enough of that with my extended family. The only slave related show or documentary I’d watch would be something about non-western slave owners. Like an honest telling of Mansa Musa’s empire. I have read that he had zero issues with owning slaves.
Yeah, I guess I should've specified black slavery in the US as the subject that was tiresome as a plot or theme.
And I too would be curious to see some exploration into other examples of historical slavery in other regions. You mention Mali as one example, and of course we've seen examples in ancient Rome multiple times. I'd also be curious to see some more examples regarding the Barbary Pirates, examples in ancient Greece, etc.
I’d love to see that. Maybe it could open some eyes of people who think slavery is confined to the U.S.
Indeed. Heck, just look at this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Janszoon
Now admittedly, because he's of European origin I'm sure most modern works would put on a very woke spin, but there's certainly an interesting story there just waiting to be cracked open, for a writer who's competent and ballsy enough to try.
The guy was clearly a colorful character with a very mixed moral compass (I honestly can't go as far as to name him an anti-hero because of what a truly rotten bastard he could be, based on historical accounts).