The Hart Cellar act hasn't actually done all that much because as much immigration as there has been, it's only had a significant effect from the 90's onward.
But let's go further. Let's say there was almost no immigration past the Revolutionary War? What would we look like?
Honestly: we'd be far more Leftist than we already are.
I realized something looking at Trump's poll numbers. He's actually stuck at the amount of white voter support that he has. In fact, he can't move at all on getting more white voters that aren't midwestern working class whites. One of the single worst demographics he does with: New England white Anglos. They are rabidly Leftwing.
Most of the Baizou, the White Left, are the socialist youngsters who are propagandized, but also the uniquely Leftist Anglos. Martha's Vineyard is a great example. Despite the fact that they won't tolerate illegal immigration on their doorstep, they advocate it everywhere else. Wealthy white anglos litter the neo-liberal political and upper-class establishment. The plantation class of the south and the liberal elite of the North East are all Leftist or Controlled Opposition of Right, even the Texas oil tycoons are all neo-con Bushites. But of course, the Bushes didn't come from Texas, they too, came from New England.
What about the rest of the Anglosphere? Same problem. Rabid Leftists. Biden is an Anti-Anglo Lefitst Irish Nationalist supporting Neo-Lib from Delaware. Shin Fein and the IRA are actively leading the charge to demographically replace the Irish with Pakistanis. The Scottish Nationalists are National Socialists, actively leading the charge against Scotts in Scotland. The Welsh are captured by Leftist insanity, and are trying not to imprison themselves with unlimited migrants and 20 mph speed limits on roads. Canada is cucked as always. Australia is a genuine prison colony. New Zealand is a Fascist state that serves only Globalists elites.
I don't know what it is within the Anglosphere that makes our countries particularly so susceptible to leftist nonsense. I haven't sussed that out yet.
It's not Liberalism. France is a hive of bad Liberal ideas, but has far more Frenchmen that are prepared to speak out, and occasionally revolt.
While the Anglos have the Protestant Work Ethic which is the cornerstone of Anglo civilization, it has some sort of horrific weakness in it's character... and I can't figure out what that is.
Honestly: we'd be far more Leftist than we already are.
Would you be so kind as to entertain me with your hamstering about how non-whites are saving us from leftism by voting to the left of whites consistently for decades, with no end in sight? The left also disagrees with that assertion since they support mass immigration, just like you do.
but also the innately Leftist Anglos
Innately huh? Gizortnik has no problem attributing negative politics to people's race and ethnicity as long as they are white. Funny how that works. If I said this about Jews, I'd get R16'd, but I bet Dom won't do shit to you.
Martha's Vineyard is a great example. Despite the fact that they won't tolerate illegal immigration on their doorstep, they advocate it everywhere else.
Is there anyone else you can think of that opposes immigration for their territory but supports it for others? They've been in the news a lot lately!
The Scottish "Nationalists" are lead by Humza Yousaf, very Scottish sounding name. You forgot to include that pertinent information. You're employing tranny logic that gives primacy to labels over reality. It's also really strange for you to condemn these "nationalist" parties for supporting mass immigration while you are speaking in support of immigration. I thought replacing the innately leftist, defective white people was necessary to prevent "muh leftism."
What on earth makes Biden in anyway an Irish Nationalist Socialist? He does jack shit in the pretext of his Irish ancestry while deploying multiple aircraft carriers to defend Israel. It would be far more appropriate to call him a Jewish National Socialist if you insist on an NS label for him. In your tirade against Anglos, you forgot to mention that there are no WASP in Biden's entire cabinet. There are tons of the group that gets special protection here, though.
Innately huh? Gizortnik has no problem attributing negative politics to people's race and ethnicity as long as they are white. Funny how that works. If I said this about Jews, I'd get R16'd, but I bet Dom won't do shit to you.
This is why he makes assertions like this, he know that any argument against him will just be deleted by the mods. We're fighting on enemy occupied terrain.
I went ahead and did the reports just to prove it, but we know how that will turn out.
Would you be so kind as to entertain me with your hamstering about how non-whites are saving us from leftism by voting to the left of whites consistently for decades, with no end in sight?
At the moment, we are getting lots of anti-socialist Hispanics. However, you've misframed your own question. It's not about non whites, it's about non Anglos. For the most part, it seems to be German and Eastern European immigrants and those communities; as well as pioneer communities (so not even ethnic) that have a far more conservative bent through American history.
Innately huh? Gizortnik has no problem attributing negative politics to people's race and ethnicity as long as they are white. Funny how that works. If I said this about Jews, I'd get R16'd, but I bet Dom won't do shit to you.
Relax, I'm not saying it's genetic. Remember, I don't even believe in genetic culture.
Honestly, if "innate" got you in a tizzy, I'll remove it and apologize for making you think I'm trying to 'racially' slur Anglos. I'm not.
What I'm saying is that there is something unique within Anglo culture that makes it vulnerable to Leftism. Anglo culture has unique benefit called "The Protestant Work Ethic" that makes it possible for them to be more likely to build a fully functional civilization.
That uniqueness is only specific to the Anglos within a certain time (England was not always Protestant). It's not genetic. It's social, and it can be lost. Culture is actually really important, and what I'm trying to figure out is what is the cultural vulnerability that makes the Anglos susceptible to Leftism.
To be honest, it might be care. The Anglos also have a fairly unique cultural sensitivity to dogs that many other societies found strange. That care focus might actually be a weapon by which Leftism can attack Anglo culture.
And again, Leftism isn't unique to one culture, it morphs to attack any vulnerability it sees. I think the issue is that since Leftism originated in France, Anglo culture has been exposed to it's attacks longer than most other cultures and societies (excluding France).
And again, I'm willing to accept I'm wrong on this. I'm still trying to square this whole thing away.
What on earth makes Biden in anyway an Irish Nationalist Socialist? He does jack shit in the pretext of his Irish ancestry while deploying multiple aircraft carriers to defend Israel.
I'm using it in a descriptive sense, not in the same way I would describe the NSDAP. Though in fairness, the SNP and Shin Fein did both try to side with them in the war against England.
Mostly it is his open antagonism with Britain. He's repeatedly sided against the UK in multiple trade deals, and done everything in his power to support the Irish globalist regime.
In your tirade against Anglos, you forgot to mention that there are no WASP in Biden's entire cabinet. There are tons of the group that gets special protection here, though.
This isn't a tirade against the Anglos. This is something about the Anglo culture that has some specific vulnerability to Leftism. So does Christianity.
Besides, I'm a Revolutionary Liberal. That is Anglo culture. It may be part of my own internal bias towards Anglo culture that I'm not seeing what the core problem is.
And you're crazy to think there's no WASP in any of Biden's cabinet.
Look, he asked the question, and I answered it. It is what it is.
The numbers for MAGA and America First are being boosted by Latino votes. The reason this can work in the US, and not so much in England or Ireland is because the US is a Civic Nation. Like it or not, we subscribe to a specific ideology that you can, luckily, get other people to buy into.
No, you're telling me that scrapping our old immigration standards and throwing open the doors to the third world isn't a problem because you are anti-white.
What??? I never said anything like that, or even something similar to that.
I said that if we had NO IMMIGRATION since the Revolutionary War, we'd be predominantly American Anglo, and I suspect that would actually cause the US to be more Leftwing.
Hell, I even said that the Hart Celler Acts largest effects happened decades after it was past. Not that it isn't a problem.
I've said many times that our best policy would be watch the economy collapse (no inevitable), then super-strengthen border restrictions and watch most of these illegals mass deport themselves. Otherwise known as: "Quick! Lock the door!" strategy.
In the australian referendum the other week, all the people voting 'yes' were the lefty inner city liberals who had no contact with any actual aboriginies.
Highest no votes were people who live in places with them. There's an effect there.
Contact breeds conservativism. Contact with crime, contact with other cultures.
There's certainly an aspect of information feedback. People who don't get feedback of the consequences of bad decisions are prone to Leftism. So, being wealthy and isolated is a big avenue of attack for Leftism.
However, that doesn't explain some of the shit in New England. There were major Leftist political fights regarding "Forced Bussing" in Boston back in the 70's and 80's. Basically, a Leftist judge used desperate impact theory (not formally stated at the time), to justify mandatory busing of different race students to other school districts, regardless of geographic location.
NE kind of exploded into nasty allegations of racism and all sorts of other crazy shit. If you didn't support bussing you were a racist. If you did, you were a good person. A lot of Bostonians certainly had huge problems with that slander, and there were a lot of very public, very angry protests regarding bussing at the time. But it wasn't at all clear who would come out on top of the issue. The Progressive racial activists, or the working-class Bostonians.
Wikipedia actually calls it the "Desegregation Crisis" despite the fact that there was no segregation in Massachusetts. The situation devolved into violence and even riots multiple times. And yet, for nearly ten years, in a state as white and homogenous as Massachusetts, the pollical volatility continued. Most of Mass. is Anglo, but a large minority is also Irish. I get the very strong feeling that if we could study it, there would have been a ton of Leftist Anglos on the side of the Progressives who were probably pushing hard for the racialist laws.
The Hart Cellar act hasn't actually done all that much because as much immigration as there has been, it's only had a significant effect from the 90's onward.
But let's go further. Let's say there was almost no immigration past the Revolutionary War? What would we look like?
Honestly: we'd be far more Leftist than we already are.
I realized something looking at Trump's poll numbers. He's actually stuck at the amount of white voter support that he has. In fact, he can't move at all on getting more white voters that aren't midwestern working class whites. One of the single worst demographics he does with: New England white Anglos. They are rabidly Leftwing.
Most of the Baizou, the White Left, are the socialist youngsters who are propagandized, but also the uniquely Leftist Anglos. Martha's Vineyard is a great example. Despite the fact that they won't tolerate illegal immigration on their doorstep, they advocate it everywhere else. Wealthy white anglos litter the neo-liberal political and upper-class establishment. The plantation class of the south and the liberal elite of the North East are all Leftist or Controlled Opposition of Right, even the Texas oil tycoons are all neo-con Bushites. But of course, the Bushes didn't come from Texas, they too, came from New England.
And what of their decedents? Well, one of them is Angela Davis, if that gives you a clue.
What about the rest of the Anglosphere? Same problem. Rabid Leftists. Biden is an Anti-Anglo Lefitst Irish Nationalist supporting Neo-Lib from Delaware. Shin Fein and the IRA are actively leading the charge to demographically replace the Irish with Pakistanis. The Scottish Nationalists are National Socialists, actively leading the charge against Scotts in Scotland. The Welsh are captured by Leftist insanity, and are trying not to imprison themselves with unlimited migrants and 20 mph speed limits on roads. Canada is cucked as always. Australia is a genuine prison colony. New Zealand is a Fascist state that serves only Globalists elites.
I don't know what it is within the Anglosphere that makes our countries particularly so susceptible to leftist nonsense. I haven't sussed that out yet.
It's not Liberalism. France is a hive of bad Liberal ideas, but has far more Frenchmen that are prepared to speak out, and occasionally revolt.
While the Anglos have the Protestant Work Ethic which is the cornerstone of Anglo civilization, it has some sort of horrific weakness in it's character... and I can't figure out what that is.
Would you be so kind as to entertain me with your hamstering about how non-whites are saving us from leftism by voting to the left of whites consistently for decades, with no end in sight? The left also disagrees with that assertion since they support mass immigration, just like you do.
Innately huh? Gizortnik has no problem attributing negative politics to people's race and ethnicity as long as they are white. Funny how that works. If I said this about Jews, I'd get R16'd, but I bet Dom won't do shit to you.
Is there anyone else you can think of that opposes immigration for their territory but supports it for others? They've been in the news a lot lately!
The Scottish "Nationalists" are lead by Humza Yousaf, very Scottish sounding name. You forgot to include that pertinent information. You're employing tranny logic that gives primacy to labels over reality. It's also really strange for you to condemn these "nationalist" parties for supporting mass immigration while you are speaking in support of immigration. I thought replacing the innately leftist, defective white people was necessary to prevent "muh leftism."
What on earth makes Biden in anyway an Irish Nationalist Socialist? He does jack shit in the pretext of his Irish ancestry while deploying multiple aircraft carriers to defend Israel. It would be far more appropriate to call him a Jewish National Socialist if you insist on an NS label for him. In your tirade against Anglos, you forgot to mention that there are no WASP in Biden's entire cabinet. There are tons of the group that gets special protection here, though.
This is why he makes assertions like this, he know that any argument against him will just be deleted by the mods. We're fighting on enemy occupied terrain.
I went ahead and did the reports just to prove it, but we know how that will turn out.
Making Dom work to keep the illusion up is funny if nothing else.
That all it is though.
At the moment, we are getting lots of anti-socialist Hispanics. However, you've misframed your own question. It's not about non whites, it's about non Anglos. For the most part, it seems to be German and Eastern European immigrants and those communities; as well as pioneer communities (so not even ethnic) that have a far more conservative bent through American history.
Relax, I'm not saying it's genetic. Remember, I don't even believe in genetic culture.
Honestly, if "innate" got you in a tizzy, I'll remove it and apologize for making you think I'm trying to 'racially' slur Anglos. I'm not.
What I'm saying is that there is something unique within Anglo culture that makes it vulnerable to Leftism. Anglo culture has unique benefit called "The Protestant Work Ethic" that makes it possible for them to be more likely to build a fully functional civilization.
That uniqueness is only specific to the Anglos within a certain time (England was not always Protestant). It's not genetic. It's social, and it can be lost. Culture is actually really important, and what I'm trying to figure out is what is the cultural vulnerability that makes the Anglos susceptible to Leftism.
To be honest, it might be care. The Anglos also have a fairly unique cultural sensitivity to dogs that many other societies found strange. That care focus might actually be a weapon by which Leftism can attack Anglo culture.
And again, Leftism isn't unique to one culture, it morphs to attack any vulnerability it sees. I think the issue is that since Leftism originated in France, Anglo culture has been exposed to it's attacks longer than most other cultures and societies (excluding France).
And again, I'm willing to accept I'm wrong on this. I'm still trying to square this whole thing away.
I'm using it in a descriptive sense, not in the same way I would describe the NSDAP. Though in fairness, the SNP and Shin Fein did both try to side with them in the war against England.
Mostly it is his open antagonism with Britain. He's repeatedly sided against the UK in multiple trade deals, and done everything in his power to support the Irish globalist regime.
This isn't a tirade against the Anglos. This is something about the Anglo culture that has some specific vulnerability to Leftism. So does Christianity.
Besides, I'm a Revolutionary Liberal. That is Anglo culture. It may be part of my own internal bias towards Anglo culture that I'm not seeing what the core problem is.
And you're crazy to think there's no WASP in any of Biden's cabinet.
Oh goody, more southlanders come to make the country less white. Surely more racial diversity will help to restore us to a high trust society.
Look, he asked the question, and I answered it. It is what it is.
The numbers for MAGA and America First are being boosted by Latino votes. The reason this can work in the US, and not so much in England or Ireland is because the US is a Civic Nation. Like it or not, we subscribe to a specific ideology that you can, luckily, get other people to buy into.
Assimilation can build trust.
A wall of words to defend bad actors and undermine the interests of white people.
How predictable.
Anti-white - check
Obsessed with vague ideological abstractions - check
Self-contradictory - check
Sophistry - check
Blame nationalism for the exact opposite of nationalism - check
Oh yeah, it's Gizortnik time.
I'm telling you that those wealthy, white, NE "liberal" anglos are anti-white.
No, you're telling me that scrapping our old immigration standards and throwing open the doors to the third world isn't a problem because you are anti-white.
What??? I never said anything like that, or even something similar to that.
I said that if we had NO IMMIGRATION since the Revolutionary War, we'd be predominantly American Anglo, and I suspect that would actually cause the US to be more Leftwing.
Hell, I even said that the Hart Celler Acts largest effects happened decades after it was past. Not that it isn't a problem.
I've said many times that our best policy would be watch the economy collapse (no inevitable), then super-strengthen border restrictions and watch most of these illegals mass deport themselves. Otherwise known as: "Quick! Lock the door!" strategy.
Oy vey!
The same thought occured to me
In the australian referendum the other week, all the people voting 'yes' were the lefty inner city liberals who had no contact with any actual aboriginies.
Highest no votes were people who live in places with them. There's an effect there.
Contact breeds conservativism. Contact with crime, contact with other cultures.
There's certainly an aspect of information feedback. People who don't get feedback of the consequences of bad decisions are prone to Leftism. So, being wealthy and isolated is a big avenue of attack for Leftism.
However, that doesn't explain some of the shit in New England. There were major Leftist political fights regarding "Forced Bussing" in Boston back in the 70's and 80's. Basically, a Leftist judge used desperate impact theory (not formally stated at the time), to justify mandatory busing of different race students to other school districts, regardless of geographic location.
NE kind of exploded into nasty allegations of racism and all sorts of other crazy shit. If you didn't support bussing you were a racist. If you did, you were a good person. A lot of Bostonians certainly had huge problems with that slander, and there were a lot of very public, very angry protests regarding bussing at the time. But it wasn't at all clear who would come out on top of the issue. The Progressive racial activists, or the working-class Bostonians.
Wikipedia actually calls it the "Desegregation Crisis" despite the fact that there was no segregation in Massachusetts. The situation devolved into violence and even riots multiple times. And yet, for nearly ten years, in a state as white and homogenous as Massachusetts, the pollical volatility continued. Most of Mass. is Anglo, but a large minority is also Irish. I get the very strong feeling that if we could study it, there would have been a ton of Leftist Anglos on the side of the Progressives who were probably pushing hard for the racialist laws.