The Cult of the Current Thing has only one rule: Support current thing or else.
As soon members violate that one rule, they are fair game for punishment, even more so than nonmembers as it re-enforces the "or else" part of the rule, and because members have seen first hand how gleefully the cult deals out punisment, it keeps the faithful in line.
I think what annoys me more than anything is seeing mainstream conservatives, even "MAGA" types only looking at it from a pro-Israeli point of view, and a VERY surface level view at that. Even El Donaldo Trumpo himself is pro-Israeli state.
The position as a MAGA supporter (or at least my position anyway) is to want to withdraw funding from Israel as well, because much like Ukraine, it's like throwing money into a black hole where no progress is made. There's been a lot of people on the right pointing to leftists and (justly) mocking leftists for supporting Palestinians who would hate their faggotry/troon bullshit, not realizing that the "average" Palestinian would call to have them thrown off a roof for their degeneracy.
But the counter-argument to that from some "mainstream MAGA" types (not neocons, we know they simp for Zionism) is to go "look at all these innocent people who were killed, Hamas shot first!" to make Israel look to be the victim, not looking back at the decades and decades and centuries of precedent that led to all this where both sides have done incredibly seedy bullshit to each other.
I personally think the most practical thing to do (and I know this is to the consternation of a bunch of you 1488ers here) is to cut back funding of Israel (duh), and for a strong leader like Trump to sit both of these sides asses down on the table and get them to talk. Get Trump to threaten to pull an remaining funding and support from Israel if they continue to do these "retaliatory" strikes and threaten to glass all of Gaza if Hamas continues to attack Israel.
If both sides refuse to listen, we withdraw all our support, money, weaponry, etc. out of that region and let them fend to themselves.
I know normally we're not the world police, but I'm trying to think of this from a practical standpoint because "GAS ZE JUICE" despite how good it makes a bunch of you feel great to say, will not realistically solve this shitshow.
Much like Trump with the Ukraine shitshow, I just want everyone to stop fucking fighting. Apparently "stop engaging in war" is still a hard thing for our government elites to give a shit about.
I doubt you can win the presidency without being pro Israel. This isn't to defend anything our Trumo has said in particular. Just an observation.
Get Trump to threaten to pull an remaining funding and support from Israel if they continue to do these "retaliatory" strikes and threaten to glass all of Gaza if Hamas continues to attack Israel.
Well he'd better win first because he can't do anything until then. Also what's the difference in the US glassing all of Gaza or Israel doing it?
I guess the difference between you and me is I don't care about solving their war. I'd rather withdraw our support from the region right now and let them do what they want. Unfortunately whatever happens there might come back to bite us one way or another.
It's been strange to see this whiplash of topical conflict, how quickly people will turn into rabid jingoists at a mere snap of the fingers.
Oh how hastily their lawn ornaments, flags, and profile pics do change.
The Cult of the Current Thing has only one rule: Support current thing or else.
As soon members violate that one rule, they are fair game for punishment, even more so than nonmembers as it re-enforces the "or else" part of the rule, and because members have seen first hand how gleefully the cult deals out punisment, it keeps the faithful in line.
I think what annoys me more than anything is seeing mainstream conservatives, even "MAGA" types only looking at it from a pro-Israeli point of view, and a VERY surface level view at that. Even El Donaldo Trumpo himself is pro-Israeli state.
The position as a MAGA supporter (or at least my position anyway) is to want to withdraw funding from Israel as well, because much like Ukraine, it's like throwing money into a black hole where no progress is made. There's been a lot of people on the right pointing to leftists and (justly) mocking leftists for supporting Palestinians who would hate their faggotry/troon bullshit, not realizing that the "average" Palestinian would call to have them thrown off a roof for their degeneracy.
But the counter-argument to that from some "mainstream MAGA" types (not neocons, we know they simp for Zionism) is to go "look at all these innocent people who were killed, Hamas shot first!" to make Israel look to be the victim, not looking back at the decades and decades and centuries of precedent that led to all this where both sides have done incredibly seedy bullshit to each other.
I personally think the most practical thing to do (and I know this is to the consternation of a bunch of you 1488ers here) is to cut back funding of Israel (duh), and for a strong leader like Trump to sit both of these sides asses down on the table and get them to talk. Get Trump to threaten to pull an remaining funding and support from Israel if they continue to do these "retaliatory" strikes and threaten to glass all of Gaza if Hamas continues to attack Israel.
If both sides refuse to listen, we withdraw all our support, money, weaponry, etc. out of that region and let them fend to themselves.
I know normally we're not the world police, but I'm trying to think of this from a practical standpoint because "GAS ZE JUICE" despite how good it makes a bunch of you feel great to say, will not realistically solve this shitshow.
Much like Trump with the Ukraine shitshow, I just want everyone to stop fucking fighting. Apparently "stop engaging in war" is still a hard thing for our government elites to give a shit about.
I doubt you can win the presidency without being pro Israel. This isn't to defend anything our Trumo has said in particular. Just an observation.
Well he'd better win first because he can't do anything until then. Also what's the difference in the US glassing all of Gaza or Israel doing it?
I guess the difference between you and me is I don't care about solving their war. I'd rather withdraw our support from the region right now and let them do what they want. Unfortunately whatever happens there might come back to bite us one way or another.
I know people who can be whipped into a frenzy by playing scary music on the 6:00 news