Except that the circumcision push was made by the WHO/ and UN, and the data compared pre circumcision rates to post. What I do find funny is these are all the leftist/ sexual revolution talking points with MRA paint on them.
Both sides of this have various nefarious actors pushing either PoV so focusing on that leads nowhere. You tried well-poisoning when your own supply is contaminated. It didn't work the first time, and it's not going to work no matter how many times you try it.
Calling John money and his studies what they are isn’t well poisoning, it scientific accuracy. The fact the MRA anti circumcision push is entirely based on arguments made from Kinsey, Money, Foucault et al is not poisoning the well either, if anything it’s an oxymoronic stance considering MRA reviles these people completely. That’s the facts of the studies and who conducted them. Saying the UN and WHO conducted the Africa studies shows it wasn’t “Christian Africans versus bush meat cannibals” which you poised, not me. There are platitudes of studies showing health benefits from circumcision of which the Africa study is a portion. Say we scrap Africa, that still gives us… lower std rates in the US for circumcised males, lower penile cancer rates, and higher health outcomes across the board.
The varying lifestyle argument is essentially circumcised white men have lower std rates than non circumcised African/Hispanic men. It still doesn’t track considering circumcised white men have lower risks across the board compared to uncircumcised white men.
Except that the circumcision push was made by the WHO/ and UN, and the data compared pre circumcision rates to post. What I do find funny is these are all the leftist/ sexual revolution talking points with MRA paint on them.
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Both sides of this have various nefarious actors pushing either PoV so focusing on that leads nowhere. You tried well-poisoning when your own supply is contaminated. It didn't work the first time, and it's not going to work no matter how many times you try it.
Just take the L.
Calling John money and his studies what they are isn’t well poisoning, it scientific accuracy. The fact the MRA anti circumcision push is entirely based on arguments made from Kinsey, Money, Foucault et al is not poisoning the well either, if anything it’s an oxymoronic stance considering MRA reviles these people completely. That’s the facts of the studies and who conducted them. Saying the UN and WHO conducted the Africa studies shows it wasn’t “Christian Africans versus bush meat cannibals” which you poised, not me. There are platitudes of studies showing health benefits from circumcision of which the Africa study is a portion. Say we scrap Africa, that still gives us… lower std rates in the US for circumcised males, lower penile cancer rates, and higher health outcomes across the board.
You still have the varying lifestyle problems within the US. The UN and WHO are also big fans of all those perverts.
The varying lifestyle argument is essentially circumcised white men have lower std rates than non circumcised African/Hispanic men. It still doesn’t track considering circumcised white men have lower risks across the board compared to uncircumcised white men.